Pagans and other polytheists: As Atheism becomes more popular...?

Question

As the number of Atheists increases and the members of their population that are ANTI-religious become more outspoken will you find it tougher to support Atheist causes (put your support behind Atheism as an anti-Christian Power movement)?

NOT anti-Christian. ANTI Christian POWER in Politics. The paragraph separation interrupted the sentence badly.

Hypnopope: I asked this as a serious question. No fare! Now I totally want to pick your answer as best (because it reflects a lot of how I got to be who I am today)!

Answer 1

I personally do not look at causes from the perspective of whether they are Atheist or Christian. I look at them more from the perspective of whether they are moral and ethical.

Socrates, in his trial before the citizens of Athens, refused to agree with the statement that he was an atheist and taught atheism (and in fact refuted those statements in BOTH of the translations of Plato's Apology that I possess). Yet the statements he made dealt with the questions of whether his teachings were moral and/or ethical.

If the cause is moral and ethical according to my understanding of Arete (Right), then I will support it no matter the religion, or lack thereof, behind the cause.

If an Atheist organization wishes to help survivors of (for example) the recent Minneapolis bridge collape then I will not say that I oppose that cause UNLESS that help is dependent on (for example) a reason that I would find unethical (such as a disavowal of religion).

For another example, regardless of the religion that may be behind their stance, if someone who is against abortion makes provision for the care of the babies who would result from those pregnancies then I will not object to their stance in the same way I would a person who just tells me that "abortion is murder" yet does not allow for contraception or help with the child's upbringing.

Answer 2

Anti-anything isn't a very good thing. If you are anti something, you resist it. You don't even want it to exist! You want to EXTERMINATE it! Now this is a very difficult thing. You want something to not exist, yet it DOES exist, and you probably don't have the power to make it go extinct. So now your putting time and energy into an impossible cause. You are RESISTING reality. We should be ACCEPTING and not RESISTING.

Atheists normaly say that they are logical and scientifical. So if an atheist claims to be the above statement, and yet is anti-religion, it is quite contradictory. Science (observation) and logic PROVE religion exists (regardless if they are true or not), and will tell you that it is VERY UNLIKELY that you could exterminate religion. So I'd think anyone logical/scientifical would accept reality, and embrace the reality of religion (this does not mean conforming or joining a religion, it simply means to accept the fact that it DOES exist and possibly even enjoying the fact that it does).

There is NO point in suffering because you don't want somethign that does exist to not exist, and then struggling to supress it, which it is pretty much impossible for you to do.

Note: I'm not trying to bash anyone. Also I'm not advocating joining a religion, God, or being an atheist.

Have a good day :)

Answer 3

well, since i'm not pagan or a polytheist, i can't answer this question, but i do agree that it's not characteristic of atheists to "fight for a greater cause" because they don't believe in one. atheists choose logical disbelief and i doubt would join forces with that of pagan-centric religions, because they are still religions which goes againts the whole atheist standpoint. i'd also like to ask how one could be atheist AND pagan? seems like a contradictory to me as paganism is still a religious/spiritual school of thought. saying you're a pagan atheist is like saying you're a christian atheist. and why would it be tougher for a pagan to back an atheist if the atheist chooses to be outspoken? and honestly dont you know that ALL atheists are anti-religious or at least sans religion? that's kind of the point of atheism. if they were religious it would have to fall under some other category like bahai, buddhism, shinto- which are all religions.

Answer 4

I don't support atheist causes. I do support many of the same things that atheists do, but that's because we agree on the issue itself, and has nothing to do with our respective religious beliefs.

Nor am I anti-Christian. I am anti-bigotry, anti-fundamentalist, and anti-allowing-anybody-else-to-tell-me-how-to-run-my-life (there's probably a word for that, but I can't think of it right now), all of which many fundamentalist Christians disagree with. My main problem with Christianity--when I have a problem with it at all--is when it claims to be the "One, true path."

Which is the only problem I ever have with atheism--but the atheists are a lot less likely to get in my face about it. Mostely, we respect each other, and leave each other alone.

Answer 5

No, I wouldnt back them. Not because of thier religious path, but because I wouldnt support anyone that has a list of annoying speaches and rhetoric on the ready should he happen by some unsuspecting person. And im not sure what I would do if they joined in the door to door game. As it is its easy to tell the Jehova witnesses that Wiccan..a Witch, and the color drains from their head so quickly that they can remember the little pamplets in their hands. I have no idea what to say to the Atheist to make them go away. Guess Ill have to come up with a plan.

Answer 6

I believe people are misunderstanding atheism and over generalizing the atheist minorities. We are not anti-Christian or anti-religion, we just don't believe in them... no dogma involved. The times we do get pissed is when people put their beliefs over ours which we have to defend, and the occasional questions we expect people to answer about their faith. Key word *outspoken*, we were never supposed to become suppressed of our views, now we are coming out of the closet sort of speak. There shouldn't be separate civil rights just because people disagree with atheism, everyone should have a fair chance just like blacks, homosexuals, and even women who have control over their own reproductive decisions.

Answer 7

Atheist Causes?

I haven't come across an Atheist Cause yet? You must be confusing Atheism with Religion. Religions are the ones who tend to mobilize and create movements and causes that cost money and stifle education and freedoms. Not Atheism.

I do want to see Christians saved from their cruel beliefs, and Muslims not feel glee when people are killed in the name of Allah. I also would like people of the Jewish religion to feel empathy for Palestinians. Or Hindus to forgive the Muslims in Kashmir. But I wouldn't call this hope a cause, just a wish.

You will never hear Atheists telling you that if you don't follow Atheist causes, you will be tortured for eternity, you won't hear Atheists claiming that the world was made by Leprechauns, and those who don't recognize their existence are obviously possesed by Unicorns. That is a religious trait.

Christians love to create hate, whether it is hate for sinners, or a belief that non believers hate them and are out to get them.

Guess what, we don't care if you want to believe in fairies, that is wonderful for you. In fact most of us have parents or friends who believe in these things, we don't want to see them harmed, or force them to give up their beliefs. That's not like us, THAT IS A CHRISTIAN/MUSLIM?RELIOGIOUS TRAIT.

Answer 8

As has been stated time and again by atheists worldwide, we could really give a rat's *ss what anyone else believes or does not believe. The only time you will see an atheist work AGAINST a religion is when that religion tries to impose itself on us, the way Christianity does in this country.

If Christians would stay in their churches, and out of our politics, they would never hear from us again. We would simply drive past their churches giggling at them. But otherwise, we couldn't care less about them.

Answer 9

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Answer 10

a pagan atheist...wtf, thats like impossible...literally. pick a better name; anyways ON TO THE QUESTION!!!
If your talking about the atheist movement on youtube, I somehow doubt those beligerent fools are going to get anywhere, its like taking a million mirrors and shattering each into a million peices. if you select one peice from each mirror and try to put all those peices together your not going to have a very good mirror. atheists are highly individualistic in their views and i believe if anyone tries to form a movement it will end up like christianity and tear itself apart.