2007-08-13
04:11:36
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Sapere Aude
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Where are the court "records" that a man named Jesus or something similar was crucified for anarchy against the roman religion?
I have never heard of anything on this subject other than the bible as "proof" and "history"...
2007-08-13
04:23:35 ·
update #1
'An historical fact' is correct, you use 'an' before 'h'.
2007-08-13
04:35:33 ·
update #2
Lee Stroebel Case for Christ
It is often claimed by the proponents of this book that the author wrote it when he was an atheist, and was undergoing the conversion process. This is not true. From a careful reading (see the last two paragraphs at the bottom of page 14), he makes it quite clear that he wrote it as a fully committed Christian, "retracing" his spiritual path an indeterminate period of time after the fact.
2007-08-14
05:20:15 ·
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Josh McDowell is obviously an intelligent and educated man. He is smart enough to fill his book with sufficient half-truths to get his readers excited. For example he quotes Flavius Josephus and describes his words as "hotly contested". (p.82) Unfortunately, he doesn't say why these words are so "hotly contested". He is probably aware that no serious student, or even theologian, sincerely believes that Josephus wrote this reference. It is attributed to early Christian forgers.
2007-08-14
05:24:04 ·
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It is not historical fact. I know, I have a degree in history. Historical fact can be proven. Fables can't be proven. You are referring to a part of a mythological system of belief. Myths and beliefs can't be proven and are not accepted as fact.
2007-08-13 04:18:38
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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ok, i'm going to bite. that's purely a sprint like the OJ Simpson trial, which confirmed that in spite of super quantities of knowledge that factors to an obvious end, peoples minds could be instructed in the direction of a end it particularly is mindless in any respect, different than to fulfill what the jurors needed - it particularly is, the thank you to stipulate OJ not to blame. right here, the author of the question seems to % to have the potential to assert that Christ replaced right into a god. The information to assist this looking are, in spite of the shown fact that, especially suspect, having been written after the time, been especially edited, and having long gone by greater hands, languages and especially stimulated revisionists, etc. etc. than a fish at a Tokyo meat marketplace. So, to make those suspect information greater palatable, the author seeks to impugn the information of any and all historic figures, utilising Alexander the super because of the fact the occasion. that's an attempt to teach a superb by organising a damaging, and incredibly backfires by demonstrating the weak point of the unique place. replace: the author chastises me for implying the apparent; that she is arguing for Jesus being divine. She says that no the place does she mean that. in spite of the shown fact that, the 2d sentence of her own question it appears that evidently states "crucifixion and resurrection of Christ is an historic reality?”
2016-12-15 13:45:56
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answered by Anonymous
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Josephus is a non Christian record of Jesus. I also recommend The Case for Christ - he was an athiest, seeking to find out if there was any proof, just as you are. He sought experts in many fields that could help him discover what there was to find. It's an interesting read. He basically employs the same methods of discovering the truth that any other historical researcher would use. If it's acceptable for other historical stuff, why not in this case?
And btw, Jesus was not crucified for anarchy against the roman religion. The Jewish leaders are the ones that wanted him killed because He claimed to be God, but being that they were conquered by the Romans, they had to get Rome to crucify Him for them.
2007-08-13 04:32:46
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answered by BaseballGrrl 6
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Good question. Sumerian texts, Enuma Elish, Egyptian writings prove that the bible came from them. The Hebrews took the stories of cultures they had lived with and created their own story out of them so they would have their own history. The stories outcomes and reasons for their outcomes changed in the hands of the Hebrew writers. The fall of man was blamed on the humans according to the bible. The older stories this came from showed that humans were slaves for these "gods" and the sin was on the part of the "gods". They will tell you it is all historical fact when it is actually altered history. One family bloodlines family tree says that the New Testament was written by an Italian family for the emperor and pope. I guess you would call them Roman rather than Italian. Regardless of what you believe, facts cannot be changed unless they are made into lies.
2007-08-13 04:23:34
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answered by Anonymous
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Look into Simon Greenleaf, one of the principle founders of Harvard Law and expert in judiciary evidence. He wrote a paper called "The Testimony of the Evangelist", which discusses based on evidence the reality of Jesus Christ's death and resurrection as it pertains to a court of law. You can find information that disputes Simon Greenleaf's paper, but either way in arguing for or against the historicity of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ you must at some point include the information contained in the gospels.
Greenleaf also set the standard to which most legal or juridical apologetics base their cases on that you see others listing here. Remember, like many after him Greenleaf originally set out to disprove the biblical testimony concerning the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He was certain that a careful examination of the internal witness of the Gospels would dispel all the myths at the heart of Christianity. But this legal scholar came to the conclusion that the witnesses were reliable, and that the resurrection did in fact happen.
2007-08-13 04:49:13
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answered by Bruce Leroy - The Last Dragon 3
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Probably becasue there is more historical evidence of these events than there is that Julius Caeser ruled Rome. I recommend a book to you: Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell. He actually set out to prove that there was NO historical evidence concerning these events, but what he discovered was an amazing amount. So he became a Christian.
2007-08-13 04:30:30
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answered by tempest_twilight2003 3
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Because some people are idiots. There is no fact, only hearsay.
And this:
'And by the way.....I think you're supposed to use the word "an" only when the word after it starts with a vowel.....so it should read "a historical fact"'
is incorrect. 'An historical fact' is correct, you use 'an' before 'h'.
2007-08-13 04:30:35
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answered by Anonymous
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Because it is recorded that Jesus was crucified. He was crucified the same way all the others were, the only differences being that He was mocked horribly and he had done nothing wrong. His body was gone after 3 days, and that lines up with the Bible, so if you believe the Bible than the resurrection is what you believe. Other may choose to believe that the body was simply stolen.
2007-08-13 04:18:49
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answered by TRV 3
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Did you know that Jesus was crucified and died on August 17, 1 BC? And after three days and three nights, He resurrected?
This date was revealed to us by the Holy Spirit. I first heard this in 1983 but only checked it out in 1999 when we connected to the Internet. After four years, I was able to prove that the date is correct. You may read the results of my study in http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/crucifyidx.htm
Did you know that the Holy Spirit risked His credibility? Did you know that had I proven Him wrong, you would not be seeing me posting these things here?
Did you know also that as proof that crucifixion really happened, God manifested it in post office boxes? 888 is the number of Jesus. This box was found in the center set. This set is flanked by one set on the right and one set on the left, reminding us of the crucifixion. Please read http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/jesus888.htm for a detail explanation of this unusual formation.
2007-08-13 04:33:55
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answered by Peace Crusader 5
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The resurrection can never be proven. The crucifixion is likely because history records that that was the punishment used in those days.
2007-08-13 04:17:54
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answered by Anonymous
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Oh there are records, but do you think they would tell people where they are? NO! Many people would like to destroy the evidence....because many people do not want God in their lives- which is so heart breaking.
The word of the LORD stands forever, it is TRUTH! We don't even need records, for God's word is truth!
Isaiah 40:8
The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God stands forever."
2007-08-13 06:05:41
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answered by Mandolyn Monkey Munch 6
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