The problem you have is that almost every religious argument has a logical fallacy somewhere in it.
For example you say:
"It's perfectly logical to believe the Bible, as it is perfect, and doesn't contradict itself at all."
Which is flat out wrong, the Bible contradicts itself all over the place. The idea that the Bible is perfect I suspect comes from the Bible itself which is an example of Begging the Question [ http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html ].
You also say:
"It's perfectly logical to look at the world and the complexity and organization of it as evidence of God."
We don't know enough about complexity and organisation to use the fact that the universe is complex to conclude that a God exists or that there was anything other than natural forces involved. When it comes to the existence of a god the burden of proof is on the one making the existence claim (i.e. atheism is the default position that one is expected to take when one does not know the answer to the question of whether or not there is a god).
2007-08-13 03:54:33
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answered by bestonnet_00 7
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OK, I don't know were to begin.
Firstly, you, a Christian, say that the world exhibits evidence of design by the Christian God. This is obviously wrong, as while you may believe that the world shows evidence of design, the many flaws and the suffering within the world do not point to a God who is both benevolent and unlimited in power. Therefore, you must either reject that God is all-powerful, or reject that God is completely God.
You might also argue that the evidence of design within the world points to a trainee God, or multiple Gods. There is no reason to assume that they point to a Christian God - That is a huge assumption with no basis.
Secondly, have you actually read the Bible? It contains some ridiculous claims - it states that the world is flat, and that Pi is 3 - If you had actually read the Bible you would know that it is ridiculous nonsense, and the work of men.
Please take the time to read this, then maybe you will realize that your ignorant bliss is in fact as logical as the flying spaghetti monster.
2007-08-13 11:08:29
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answered by eckzl 4
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Logic is a tool that can help determine the truthfulness of a claim. Unlike theists who are usually indoctrinated into their religion from an early age, atheists use logic to dismiss the idea of gods altogether. Anyone willing to examine the Bible objectively and critically would soon discover that it is merely a collection of superstition and myths from an ancient civilization. Some people think that enlightening a Christian to factual information might free his mind from these deeply held falsehoods. Unfortunately, this is not the case because the human brain is not a perfectly rational machine. As Jonathan Swift said, "It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."
2007-08-13 11:19:02
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answered by Anonymous
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Wow! No contradiction in the bible....you should try reading it...not only is their contradiction, but it makes God look like HE is stupid...read Genesis....right from the beginning you can see that the Bible isn't perfect and the people who wrote it humanized a Perfect Being who knows everything...hence...God didn't know where Adam and Eve were when they were in the garden...God calls out and cannot find them...God is perfect and knows all so how would He not know where they were and why would He have to call for them????
2007-08-13 11:00:33
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answered by Greenie 4
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It's perfectly logical to believe that I may not know everything about God, therefore I may be confused sometimes
--Wrong
It's perfectly logical to look at the world and the complexity and organization of it as evidence of God.
--Wrong
It's perfectly logical to believe the Bible, as it is perfect, and doesn't contradict itself at all.
--Wrong
2007-08-13 10:55:16
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answered by Anonymous
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In order to believe in God your mind has to depend on more than logic. The bible says the those who not in the spirit do not understand the things of the spirit.
God Bless
2007-08-13 10:54:56
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answered by Anonymous
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It's probably because they disagree with you, are trying to find a civil way of arguing their differences, and sound logic makes for a sound argument.
Pay attention to any formal discussion. You'll see logic come up a lot, being used by a wide variety of people.
2007-08-13 10:58:00
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answered by Just Jess 7
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As a Christian; the 'Bible' is not perfect; scripture is. The present division in Christianity (to God's disgust) world wide is partially due to the difference between scripture and the 'Bible' and its influence on people.
2007-08-13 11:19:27
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answered by jefferyspringer57@sbcglobal.net 7
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You can not take a secular approach to spiritual matters. If you are comfortable with your beliefs - enjoy that. Let them believe what they will. Faith is impossible to argue. You can only present your belief system - logical arguments are typically incompatible with religion. This doesn't not mean that to have any religious conviction is erroneous - simply that the two schools of thought do not mesh. If living your life as you do brings you joy - avoid being drained by non-believers.
2007-08-13 11:04:37
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answered by D 1
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It is kind of nutty to forever bring in logic when fairy tales are so much more intresting. Logic is dull and uninteresting when compaired with superstitious imagination.
I'm with you all the way, to heck with logic, lets have a lot of angels fluttering around, and that big bozo with his magic wand making planets, and the three-in-one guy. Way more interesting than that stupid dull logic.
2007-08-13 11:01:28
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answered by Anonymous
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