Christians what do you think of this? early 2005 to mid 2005 I started doing an Apha course for new christians

Question

Now becasue I do talk a lot I was kicked out of the course of talking too much. I was asking a lot of questions that night becasue I wanted to learn. The next day I had this pastor from that church knock on my front door telling me not to go back as he said I was disrupting the class. I was just asking a lot of questions and I was new to christianity and was happy. But htey kicked me out. Then I went to finish to course at my mothers church and they kicked me out for swearing. Not out of anger but in conversation. I was so new to the faith I was still in my bad habbits of swearing. I still do now but have cut back on over half. What do you think of this chrisitans? Do you thikn they were hypocrites?

Just me yes they were baptists. Hey that used to be my old name here.

LoriK you little wretch. You hypocrite. You are nothing but a dog. wretch

Answer 1

No. What questions were you asking and in what way? If you were asking the questions with the attitude that they saw you were just there to disrupt it and not to actually learn or help others learn or if your questions were not appropriate, I do not have a problem.

Same with the swearing. If you came to my church and started cussing in a class, I wouldn't want you their either.

Answer 2

You will find a similar incident recorded in the New Testament. In the 14 chapter of 1 Corinthians, Paul has to scold a couple of ladies in that church because they were constantly interrupting the services with questions. He tells those women to be quiet in the church services, and to ask their husbands for answers afterwards.

In a class like that, there should be some freedom to ask questions. But there is also a point at which it can (and apparently did) become disruptive. Especially if it happened at two different groups.

In that case, the Bible pattern would be to "ask your husband" - meaning a knowledgeable individual who has the time and patience to give you the individual attention you desire. The pastor could have offered to either mentor you, or to hook you up with one or two of the church elders who could have done that for you.

Are they hypocrites? Probably not. If you were kicked out by two different groups, then it was probably justified. They were trying to do what was best for the group. You cant let one person disrupt the whole meeting. Where they might have failed was in making a effort to set up something special for the individual. But that was probably more laziness then hypocrisy.

Answer 3

Well in my opinion the problem with you asking question is that you were asking Christians for answers. See there is not a lot of room for that sort of thing with Christians. Mostly they want people that will accept without question. Once the questions start to flow, the depressing lack of any real answers become very obvious. Then there is very little choice but to do away with the pesky source of questions. Because questions side track the messes that want only to blindly follow and be "saved".
Saved by the loving God that will send them to Hell if they do not do as they are told to be worthy of his love and avoid the fire.
Think for yourself my brother. Question Everything.

(Edit: After reading some of the responses)
Booo this TOOL!!
Yaaayy Lori K

Answer 4

I think that they didn't handle the situation properly, at least according to your account of how it happened. Whoever was in charge of the class should have taken you aside privately to speak to you about not using swear words.

If during the class you were asking too many questions they should have told you that they would be willing to answer your questions at the end of the class on their own time but that they had a certain amount of material that they wanted to cover and didn't have time to answer every possible question that might come up during the class.

Answer 5

Yeah, I did easily.. 4 years in the past, i think of. and that i did no longer get thrown out, even although i replaced right into a particularly new Christian on the time. It replaced into no longer forbidden to ask questions or something. although, of direction they have been given particularly mad with people who swore and such.. you ought to objective to no longer do this, in case you elect to dodge being kicked out.. yet howdy, in step with risk it would be for the greater ideal, besides! The direction is especially plenty designed to indoctrinate you and brainwash you, hun.. good ingredient you nevertheless have questions approximately your faith. save asking those! and maybe sometime you will additionally come to the top that Christianity would not upload up by any ability.

Answer 6

LOL! Good for you for giving it a second try! It shows, at the very least, that you really wanted to be there.

I think it's a real shame that you were "invited to leave". It shows that the leaders of the courses were under-trained and badly-equipped to deal with confrontation or anything difficult. Anyone leading an Alpha course should have at the very least watched the training video that is available with the course material. But a church that's serious about reaching people who need to hear the Alpha message should have sent their leaders on the day-long training course to prepare them.

This course covers matters like dealing with the deliberately disruptive - as opposed to the merely-aggressively-curious - and with those whose behaviour is inadvertently disruptive (like people who appear not to have bathed for a couple of weeks or who, like you have trouble keeping those automatic f***s and s***s out of their normal language).

Unforunately, a lot of churches use Alpha less as an introduction to Christianity for non-Christians than they do as refresher training for their congregations. It sounds like this was what the churches you went to were doing.

When my mother was running an Alpha course and wanted to reach out to people who wouldn't normally darken a church door I encouraged her to hold it on "neutral territory". So rather than have it in the church hall or in her living room, they met in the saloon bar of the local pub. The language was regularly on the ripe side and there was even the occasional fight. But by bringing Alpha out of the church borderlands not only was it more accessible for those attending, it also drew in several of the regulars who would otherwise never have dreamed of going to something "Christian".

Thankfully, Jesus won't turn anyone away who comes to him, no matter how awkward their questions or how colourful their language. He doesn't care what you smell like or look like and he doesn't care whether you fit in. In fact, if his life on Earth is anything to go by, he actually prefers the people who don't fit in and who don't think that the way they look makes them better than their neighbours.

Have a look at the Alpha website to find the contact details of other churches and groups in your area that are running Alpha courses. If none of them fit the bill, call your local Alpha rep (their details will be on the website) and he or she will point you to the right group for you.

If you meet Christians who reject you because you don't fit their idea of what a Christian should be, then don't be down-hearted. It is you who should pity them, because their understanding of the message of Jesus Christ is flawed and incomplete. Pray for them and be strong.

Answer 7

There are 2 sides to every story. I'd be curious to hear what there side is. I'm getting the feeling there is either a lot more to this, or a lot less.

Answer 8

Swearing and using bad language is not helping you sound convincing, it makes you sound uneducated and without a intellectual argument. To learn more go here; http://godisimaginary.com/
Be good be nice.

Answer 9

Bad news! Were they Baptists?