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When forming a sentence in past tense how do we determine with which verb we will use "etre" or "avoir". For example with verbs like naitre, aller ,monter, arriver, venir, enterer, passer,rester,partir,sortir,decendre,tomber,mourir etc we use etre, but how do we determine this?

These all verbs are from the 1st group i think?


Merci:)

2007-08-12 20:18:06 · 8 answers · asked by Rip Van W 3 in Society & Culture Languages

Je parle un peu francaise. Just a beginner.

2007-08-12 20:23:39 · update #1

8 answers

hi i'm learning french for the second time so let me see if i can help.

for example passer means (to pass)

je passe - i pass
tu passe - you pass *singular
elle/il passent - she/he pass
nous passons - we pass
vous passez - you pass *plural
elles/ils passent - they pass

i think this is what you mean but i'm not sure. i hoped i helped in some way

2007-08-15 09:57:49 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I think you've already got a pretty comprehensive list of verbs that take 'etre' in compound tenses. You'll see that most of them have to do with mortion. Just to make things more interesting, there are a few variants:

When monter and descendre are used literally, they are conjugatated with etre - elle est descendue; when used figuratively, they are conjugated with avoir - les prix ont monté. Also, whene descendre, monter, rentrer retourner and sortir are used transitively (i.e. they have a direct object), they form compounds with avoir, e.g. le porteur a monté vos bagages, monsieur; il a sorti son revolver.

When convenir means to suit, use avoir - l'hotel m'a convenu; when it means to be in agreement, use etre - nous sommes convenues de son départ.

There are some other cases where these verbs take avoir, often connected with implied action.

2007-08-13 04:17:12 · answer #2 · answered by JJ 7 · 0 0

Well, the verbs you really have to learn are the ones that have to do with être, because all other verbs will have avoir--- the way I learned it was to make a list of comming and going verbs (such as aller and venir) and then transitional verbs, like mourir ( to die) or naître (to be born)... the list actually isn't that big, so just memorizing them will do the trick.

G'luck~ Bonne chance!

2007-08-13 03:22:55 · answer #3 · answered by erotikos_stratiotis 4 · 0 0

99% of all verbs use avoir as their auxiliary verb, or helping verb. All the verbs that use etre you mostly have to learn. But when dealing with a verb that deals with movement you can usually guess that the verb uses etre.

2007-08-15 21:59:50 · answer #4 · answered by jlebowski245 2 · 0 0

hey dear there few verbs that goes with "être" and theses verbs are

Common verbs that need être
Then, there are a few other common verbs that form their perfect tense with être. They are:

aller (to go) and venir (to come)
arriver (to come, arrive; to happen) and partir (to leave, depart)
entrer (to enter, come/go in) and sortir (to leave, come/go out)
descendre (to come/go down) and-- USUALLY!-- monter (to come/go up). See below for why I say "usually".
naître (to be born), mourir (to die) and décéder (to die)
retourner (to return, go back) and rentrer (to go/come back, go/come home)
rester (to stay, remain)
tomber (to fall)
devenir (to become)


Common verbs that sometimes use avoir and sometimes use être

passer
monter
convenir


and the rest goes with avoir except the exceptions :D

this link would be helpful to u hope so

http://www.french-linguistics.co.uk/grammar/avoir_or_etre.shtml

believe me french is easy and fun to learn

bonne chance

2007-08-13 03:41:04 · answer #5 · answered by dil_ka_sukoon07 2 · 0 0

naître, venir, partir, sortir : 3rd group
and the others are from the 1st.

Unfortunately, there isn't any rule ! We just know but no-one has never told us there was a rule... Sorry for non native !

2007-08-13 03:30:16 · answer #6 · answered by snewpette 3 · 0 0

I don't remember much............... I was learnign French
but I think that
verbs that indicate move are with etre and others with "have"

je suis venue
I came

J'ai mangee

I ate

(both feminine form)

2007-08-14 16:54:57 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Parlez vous frances? Merci beaucoup

2007-08-13 03:21:24 · answer #8 · answered by AandM 3 · 0 0

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