Is the Safety and Well being of our troops being provided for ?

Question

"...There are a lot of them that are going to come home with pathogens in their blood because of Halliburton and they don't even know to get tested for it. Uh, unless somebody tells them; and I'm sure Halliburton is not going to be the company that tells them."

Halliburton provided contaminated water to Soldiers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeIxHQ-lkuM

"Alesha A" We can start by making sure they get clean water, we did pay for it after all. You must have investments in Halliburton stock or be related to Cheney.

"Wayne C" I think I'll be fine, just don't send me any of that Halliburton water.

"wichitaor1" Good observations, thanks

"nolajazzyguide" Thanks for that Micro-chip link. Very interesting, We all ask that the troops be provided clean water, armored vest and armored vehicles: The powers that be, reply, Sorry we are fresh out; but we do have some Bio-Chips to monitor your health if you "want" them.

"wsulliva" No doubt about it, WAR IS HELL ! I just wish for once "the powers that be" would concoct a good reason for creating them. They get their Power, control and Greed, but what's in it for the rest of us; except more death and taxes.

"Tamara K" Hang in there; I didn't mean to scare anyone, just trying to become an informed person and maybe help others too.

"Me Too" Soldiers demoted for requesting proper equipment; Now that's sound just like something the Bush administration would do. I found someone to back up some of your claims, but not the demotion of that perticular soldier.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/082405Z.shtml

Answer 1

While the government and Haliburton may not tell them, the soldiers and their loved ones are definately seeing the information that is coming out.

Answer 2

Put it this way....the soldier who courageously stood up during a Rumsfeld speech and asked why there weren't enough armored vests and armored vehicles for the military in Iraq was demoted for daring to speak up.

After five years, the soldiers still do not have a complete number of armored vehicles, so important because of the IED's. While there are more reinforced vehicles than early in the war, they are still far short of being fully protected.

As far as the water, the soldiers aren't the only ones. The water in Iraq is not potable, period. The war has been so intense and the companies responsible for basic needs so lackadaisical and corrupt that provisions like water and electricity are in short supply. Even in rural Iraq, some town citizens are fetching water from a communal pond, murky and of questionable purity.

There is no doubt about it that Halliburton has fallen short of its numerous contracts, hiring companies that fall short of what is needed....both in Iraq and on the Gulf Coast. Why that Corporation is constantly hired is anyone guess, but one can only conclude it is because it is Dick Cheney's former employer. There is no bidding on these crucial contracts, so other corporations don't have a chance to compete. Halliburton has been cited several times for negligence and has had to repay some monies, but the real story of Halliburton's incompetence will not be fully known until after this Administration is history.

Answer 3

Part of my time in the Army involved being a member of the Combat Developments Command. This was several years after my time in Vietnam

Combat is a *itch. For every tactic you come up with, your opponent is going to come up with a counter. Then, you get to try something that counters that, and then he counters, and so on.

So, nothing stays the same. Toss in the idea of new, untested equipment that *looks* like it will do a better job, and things get crazier.

You try the new equipment, and if it works, fine. If it has glitches, you work around them, and complain. The higher-ups try to fix it, improve it, or scrap it.


Years later, when I was with Combat Developments, I and a lot of other guys (mostly Vietnam vets) tried to envision what warfare would be like some twenty years down the road. We used our hard-earned experiences in Vietnam, we used our brains, and we sweated a lot over the designs.

Twenty years later, I had the distinct pleasure of watching GEN Scwarzkopf's forces tear through the Iraqis like it was yesterday. (We had guessed right!)

Today, buried in the admin areas of several military posts, some poor bunch of staff officers are doing similar things. What will the Battlefield of twenty years from now look like, and how do we get there?

How they manage that determines whether the U.S. lives or dies.

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The odd glitch -- not quite purified water -- makes news, yes. Somebody screwed up, plain and simple.

Trust me when I say that isn't the norm. The notion of "cannon fodder" went out over a hundred years ago. Today's army is every bit as concerned with maintaining the force as with winning. If you have no force, you cannot win.

wsulliva

Answer 4

I am a bit uncertain about that video.

If the guy had tested so many purification plants (over sixty) in Iraq, he would have been very senior in Haliburton over there and should have done somethin immediately.

And if he was an expert, he would not have said that typhus was a threat from untreated water. Typhus is transmitted by fleas, not water borne pathogens. Also malaria is not transmitted by untreated water, but mosquitos, which are present in untreated water, but can also lay eggs in chlorinated water (ever see mosquitos over a swimming pool?)

Wate purification is a serious matter and should be investigated. But most of the diseases from untreated water spread rapidly and the camps in Iraq and Kuwait would be crippled by an outbreak of disease.

Answer 5

NO, their safety and well-being is NOT being provided, on purpose. I have read many horror stories of faulty equipment and besides, in some cases, they are subjected to drug-induced mind control. Soldiers are told they must kill or they will be killed--not by the Iraqi "insurgents", but by their own superiors if they refuse an order. There is a lot of suspicious activity going on over there that is kept secret, and any journalist or soldier who discovers it and tries to report it will be killed. Pat Tillman, the former football player turned soldier, was killed because of what he knew and what he was about to reveal.

Answer 6

They do the best they can under the circumstance.

Pathogens.......You know just because you are paranoid does not mean someone is not out to get you! You might want ot have your own water tested, could be something in it.

SSG US Army 73-82

Answer 7

So....how are we supposed to keep them safe? put them in a bubble? These marines are at war, THEY are keeping US safe.