Global Warming?

Question

Does any one think that this whole global warming thing is crap? dont get me wrong being environmentally friendly is a good thing. i recycle, and turn of my apliances when im not using them and i dont idle my car and all that stuff. but come on.. in the 70's they thought there was goin to be another ice age.. just wondering other ppls thoughts on this

Answer 1

I do think it has been over-hyped.

0.7C temperature rise in 150+ years coming out of the Little Ice Age. This is less than half the increase in average temperature of the US between 1920 and 1921.

Listening to some of the Alarmists, they claim that natural causes should only account for 10-20% of this, or about 0.1C.
The world had already warmed up that much before the first gasoline car was available to consumers, before the first practical light bulb, before commercial electrical generation was available.

I, too, believe that you can care for the environment without believing in global warming. It's the right thing to do...


And JOHN WALKUP, do you make a habit of FLAT OUT LYING? If you had actually snatched up "every issue from 1968-2001 that had any article related to climate, weather, ice ages, glaciers, or the North or South poles", then how could you miss the 11/76 issue?

" That statement appeared in the magazine's November 1976 issue in an article entitled "What's Happening to Our Climate?" Like the magazine's September 2004 stories, it supposedly reflected the best scientific thinking of the day on the subject of global climate change.

The November 1976 National Geographic story quoted the U.S. National Science Board as reporting in 1974: "During the last 20 to 30 years, world temperature has fallen, irregularly at first but more sharply over the last decade." It also quoted the National Science Board as forecasting two years earlier: "Judging from the record of the past interglacial ages, the present time of high temperatures should be drawing to an end ... leading into the next glacial age...."
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Global+warming%3f+...+Or+global+cooling%3f-a0123635921

Huh...

JOHN WALKUP credibility = ZERO

Now, granted NG doesn't usually do the sensationalist thing, such as Newsweek did during the 70s, and probably approached it in a relatively balanced and unbiased manner, but it was quoting the US NSB, the governing body of the NSF.

We'll give you some time to look through the article and await your retraction...

Answer 2

IMHO global warming is occurring. So I don't want to sound like an apologist for the oilcos. I do think that there is a lot of counter evidence that is being ignored by the global warming community simply because it doesn't support their conclusion. We don't do that in science.
It's not an open question that the earth goes through warming and cooling trends (check out Milankovitch Cycles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles). The question is about how human activities influence global warming. I don't think many statistical arguments are credible for the simple reason that they are very short on data. And the error in a lot of these models makes some of the conclusions highly questionable. Having said that I *definitely* think we should err on the side of caution. Afterall we are talking about the continued existence of the human race. But I have a hard time believing that volcanoes can spew hundreds of millions of tons of noxious gas (including greenhouse gases) into the atmosphere and have that lead to no long term effects while humans doing the same thing leads to catastrophic "failure" for our climate.
1 other issue of importance to GW that I don't hear much about is population control. There are way too many people. If there were fewer people we wouldn't have that much of a problem. But no one wants to talk about that because it isn't politically correct to say "stop having so damn many kids!". But like it or not humans are subject to the laws of physics and when we exceed the carrying capacity we can expect the same kinds of problems any other organism would experience under similar circumstances.

Answer 3

The thing about the global cooling scare of the 1970's is that it never really happened. In the last few years it has been blown out of all proportion by some seeking to discredit the science of global warming.

Earth has always warmed or cooled of it's own accord. Scientists were studying the factors that cause this and quite correctly predicted that in time the world would cool, they were talking in terms of millions of years. Scientists have studied these events for over 100 years and are still doing so. The media happened to pick up on it in the 70's but it could have happened at any time.

Some sections of the media picked up on this and ran with the story of impending ice ages etc, not at all what the scientists were saying. In fact, when you research the global cooling scare all you'll find are a handful of very short one-off media reports, no scientific reports at all.

Best get science from scientists, the media after all have a habit of running stories of doom and gloom - the sun imploding / exploding, asteroid impacts, extinction level events, even alien invasions.

Answer 4

To all of you who do believe in global warming. There is no reason to discuss any thing with you your mind is closed and you worship the anti American liberal left as if it was a religion of sorts. to all the rest do not believe any one who tells you that the science of global cooling did not exist. there is an article from 1975 April 28 Newsweek so you can verify it on your own about global cooling. other magazines claimed that new york city would be encased in a glacier by the end of the century. here is the link to the article
http://austrianeconomists.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/the_cooling_world_newsweek_2.jpg
Global warming is political maneuvering of guilt ridden white people who think they should be punished for all of the worlds problems. They can feel bad but leave the rest of us alone. please. Anyone out there who thinks this is the only article of the time go to your library and look through all the news mags of the late 60's and 70's every one was in a agreement the earth was cooling. My point when scientist are in agreement about anything we are no longer doing science but having a popularity contest.

Answer 5

You certainly have a right to your opinion and I thank you for not being an a** and vowing to be as anti-environment as possible.

I don't think it's "crap" but I do think it's insanely over-hyped and over-politicized. Even the scientists aren't 100% sure about the cause of climate change. It is a relatively recent discovery and it will take years and years of research to fully understand this phenomenon. You're right to question; science is nothing without people who challenge theories and question the world around them.

Answer 6

Extreme and even moderate environmentalists have killed millions of people with their lies.

I know that none of you reading this will believe it.. You will think I am a wacko. but NO.

1. The banning of DDT killed and is killing millions. THey valued bugs and fish over humans and it turns out ( and they KNEW at the time) that it doesnt even hurt the fish.

2. Limiting regrigeration is DEVASTATING to poor people.. food spoils.. people die.

Basically... Environmentalists are pushed from behind by people that want humans DEAD.


its just the truth.

Big government is not sustainable.. it will kill you.

DEAD.

Answer 7

Maybe it is getting warmer some places. It has before. We have had ice ages too. They weren't our fault before and aren't now. If it's too hot where you live, then move. I'm gonna greet the heat and enjoy it if it comes here.

Answer 8

It took me a long time to come around but yeah, now I truly believe global warming is being accelerated by human activity.

Answer 9

Do you have ONE magazine article from the 1970's with this "prediction"? No, of course you don't. Because the idea came straight out of your butt where all the contrarian nonsense comes from. I happened to be at an estate sale yesterday, where they had some old guy's collection of National Geographics. I snagged every issue from 1968-2001 that had any article related to climate, weather, ice ages, glaciers, or the North or South poles. Do you know how many of these articles mention a prediction of an ice age? Why zero of course. That's often the way National Geographic reports things when that don't exist (saves ink). But things like this won't keep the next baboon in line from repeating this dumb butt myth, now will it?

Answer 10

It never ceases to amaze me that people like you still exist...you are so blinded by your political beliefs that you refuse to see the truth about the environment...global warming is not a political issue dipsh*t, it's a global issue...Democrat or Republican, we have to share this planet and she's not well...