Is it fair for mexican lobbying groups to compare hispanics with the Irish in immigration ? whats your opinion

Question

Because while i was watching C-Span there was a program La Raza a mexican lobbying group comparing themseleves as being targeted and also being discriminated like the Irish immigrants....do

My opinion, As a Irish American (Catholic) i feel this comparison is wrong because my people suffered from famine and other calamities, while this illegal immigrants or aliens just jump from our border fence and demand benefits which a regular hard working american would not enjoy....

Answer 1

Aside from whether it's fair, which is the kind of thing people can discuss forever without a conclusion that satisfies everyone...the groups are certainly similar.

Both groups are predominantly Catholic.
Both groups have suffered religious persecution.
Both groups have suffered conquest and exploitation by foreign nations.
Both groups have been regarded as pariahs and inferiors by other cultures.
Both groups have been forced to immigrate due to a lack of lucrative work in their home countries.
Both groups have done the most menial and hazardous work after immigrating in the hope of assimilation.
Both groups have been the frequent objects of verbal slurs connected to their ethnicity.

Another important issue: Except for those of us who are Native Americans, we ALL come from immigrant stock of some kind. The only difference is how recently our ancestors arrived here.

Answer 2

nicely, there are a determination canadians protesting it besides, yet they arent donning around mexican flags and focusing on the mexican element. they're, needless to say, mor in contact approximately canada. it is an analogous with human beings of each nationality. The immigration regulation impacts mexican immigrants in the way that it impacts each physique else, thier abode united states. the only reason you believe that the concentration is entirley on mexico is that mexicans make up the commonplace public of immigrants to united statesa., for that reason they get the main interest in the media, and so on.

Answer 3

Well Mexico is also suffering from famine, natural disasters, political and social unrest, high crime, and massive drought. So actualy yes it is. While it may be slightly different for illegal ones those who have immigrated here legaly are in the exact same boat, metaphocialy speaking, that the IRish were 100-120 years ago. Both have suffered persecution and discrimination because of their differances and have been the target of attacks by some claiming they aren't going to "assimilate"

Answer 4

At the time I think the Irish were coming through Ellis Island, and the Mexican illegals are coming unchecked on their own.
I guess my question is how many Mexicans does the Mexican lobby want to come. Are we to erase the border and become more like them with the wealthy having 90% of the wealth and the 90% of the rest living off the under the booth of the Mexican government. I think if we keep having to fight this battle we are going to be like the fairy tale where goose that laid the golden egg, " Much wants more and loses all"

Answer 5

The conditions which the Irish lived upon arrival here is similar to that of many Latinos. Also, the feeling toward the new immigrants was the same in both situations. During the arrival of the Irish though, there were no laws to prevent signs such as "Irish Need not apply" or, "no Irish welcome" on businesses. Today, you can't do that, but, the circumstances of their existence in the US are similar.

If you disagree, please read this:

Answer 6

It's a civil rights group for Hispanics, not Mexicans. get that straight.
don't you think illegals are also (especially Hispanics) being discriminated against? yes, get that straight.
And the Irish have also had their day when they were discriminated against, and it wasn't fair. get that straight

So basically, you got all your "facts" wrong. know what you are talking about next time before you ask a question.

Answer 7

Point 1 the new now legal term for bribes - lobby. Definition of bribe paying a representative for special favors in return for large amounts of money or other favors.

Unless the Irish unite and accumulate funds to bribe or I mean lobby. We continue to loose ground. I am being denied jobs, justice, legal aid, an attorney, medical assistance even if I offer to pay cash.

Irish Middle class. I think I am being punished for being middle class. Making money but living in poverty.

Answer 8

The comparison is entirely appropriate.

Irish were forced to make the choice to leave due to famine - but they kept coming for decades after, both legally and illegally, until the 1990s, long past famine time.

Mexicans have it horribly hard in Mexico, with poverty wages and only a small middle class with very little room for upward mobility.

The Irish faced hostilities because of their complexions, their accents, their perceived filth - just like the Mexicans of today.

Instead of being defensive, why not take the experience of your heritage and turn it toward compassion?

Answer 9

my ancestor came to America one jump ahead of the hangman because he owned a horse worth more than five pounds. some Englishman tried to confiscate his horse according to the law. his first act was to flee to France and work as an abs on a french merchantman for two years (he was fifteen) to gain passage to America. he spoke English was willing to work hard and didn't expect a handout. his first act in America was to book passage back to Ireland and then his second was to contract for a gun. this was a little harder than jumping a fence i think.

Answer 10

no it's not fair as the irish came here legally and the people who are coming from mexico are coming here illegally as they seem to think that they have some right to do so (pay attention to the things they are saying and doing). in 1986 there were 4 million illegals that were allowed to become U.S. citizens. it was a big mistake as look at what it's encouraged. a second wave of from 12 to 20 million more illegals that expect the same. do the math it can't/couldn't happen a second time. it's a comparison of apples and oranges.