If there is no hell in Judaism, why was it necessary for the biblical god to sacrifice himself to himself.?

Question

If there was no hell for us to go to, why did we need "saving"?

I have asked this question 2 other times and for some reason the Christians are avoiding it.

Gee, I wonder why.

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Answer 1

Well, to put this in context, the mythology of a messiah wasn't the sacrificial lamb. The messiah, at the time of Jesus, was to rescue the Jews from Roman rule -- *that* was the prophecy. Messiahs at the time were a dime a dozen -- they all healed the sick, did great things, had plots allegedly against their being born, etc etc etc.

It wasn't until Paul was trying to fit Jesus into the messiah mythology that he said Jesus was the sacrificial lamb.

Answer 2

there grew to become right into a hell in Judaism. It grew to become into observed as Sheol .The hebrew notice for hell. there grew to become into no deliverence from Sheol, till you lived a sinfree life in the worldwide. that's the explanation for the Messiah. He lived a sinless life died on the go went to Sheol and took the keys to hell and damnation so 'That whosoever believeth in Him shall not die yet shall have eternal life". T4

Answer 3

There is no hell in Christian beliefs either it is made up by religious clerics to scare people into donating.
I know Luke 16: lazarus, think about this no one was in heaven. Jesus was talking it was a symbol of something.
Not a true story. Jesus was the first to leave this planet and go to heaven.
So abraham wasn't in heaven. Also neither was lazarus.
why would a man go to hell simply because he was rich?
or poor go to heaven? It was a story to tell the pharisees off without getting killed. They were rich and dressed in purple and scarlet. He was condeming them nothing more.

Answer 4

There will be 4 or 5 parts to my answer so please bear with me. 1)- How could a God who requires equal justice (eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, Duet:19:21) send someone to hell to burn forever and ever for 70,80 or 90 years of wrong living. Do you see the inequality of this act. 2)- If I threw gasoline on someone and "fired em up" that would be counted as a sin. Why are you letting people tell you that God can burn people and it's okay? It's not okay for God to burn people forever and ever. If he tells us not to sin, why would he turn around and do the same thing he told us not to do (think about it) ..........He wouldn't, and He doesn't. 3rd)-If what I am about to say goes against what you belive, please read on since I took the time to answer your question to the best of my ability. Now, I dont believe God sacrificed himself to himself because Jesus isn't God. There are many times in the bible that Jesus himself shows us that he is inferior to God, not equal. (John 14:28, Matt 24:36) Jesus prayed. Who was he praying to...himself, no, (Matt. 6:9) he was praying to our father ...where? 4th) John 1: 18 says "no man has seen God at anytime"... if Jesus was God then this statement would be a lie and you and I both know that the bible has no lies. 5th) (To me the following statement has the most proof that Jesus and God are two seperate entities). In the Garden of Gethsemane, Jesus was praying to his father when he plainly said "let not my will take place, but yours". This is the most definate proof in the bible that Jesus had to subject himself to God's will because his own will was different then Gods. Hopefully I have answered your question and been of some help to you. One more thing, before any one says to you "what about Lazurus and the Rich man", let me assure you that this story is a parrable used to show the Pharisees the condition of their hearts. I hope that part 1 and 2 helped you to see that God will not burn people forever and ever in unquenchable fire.

Answer 5

Sheol is were *all* the dead go according to the Hebrew's translations of the Old Testaments Hebrew words. The Christians, as usual, changed and edited to their needs of proselytizing and Propaganda.

Sheol is a place of darkness without pain or fear where all souls await the Messiah. Hell, and its lake of fire and eternal punishment is little but a lie used to create fear and converts.

KJV
Deut. 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

As translated by non-Christians.
Deut. 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall consume the earth with it's increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

Answer 6

In Judaism, G-d cannot become a man and man cannot become G-d. So ya, there's also no such thing as G-d sacrificing Himself to anyone. The message totally got changed after the NT...and then jesus somehow became the Pesach lamb, dunno how something goes from literal to metaphorical.

Answer 7

You are not as smart as you think you are.
There is no explicit mention of hell in Judaism as in Christianity. But they were aware of shadim - demons, expilcitly mentioned as worshipped by some in Deutoronomy and elsewhere. They just didn't know where they used to hide out, away from the light if God till Jesus Christ explained the "outer darkness". Those that believed Jesus Christ progressed into fuller knowledge of what happens after death, into everlasting light or away from the light, into everlasting pitch-black darkness.

In Judaism as in other religions, there is obviously a place where good people receive reward and bad people get punished. (see Maimonides' 13 Principles of Faith)
From Judaism's perspective, the eternal soul is as real as our thumb. This is the world of doing, and the "world to come" is where we experience the eternal reality of whatever we've become. Do you think after being responsible for the torture and deaths of millions of people, that Hitler could really "end it all" by just swallowing some poison? No. Ultimate justice is found in another dimension.

A handful of people are too evil even for Gehenom(purgatory), and they are punished eternally. The afterlife is a fundamental of Jewish belief! The existence of the afterlife does not need to be stated explicitly in the Torah itself for the Jew to believe this, and they do (believe).

Answer 8

Church leaders created hell to scare people into obedience

Answer 9

It was so we could go to be with God in paradise not to create a hell

Answer 10

Perhaps it is being avoided because it is just another stupid Islamic question. You already know the answer, you only want to cause decension and Christians try to avoid decension