The theory of evolution says that the universe arose from nothing without a cause. Is this reasonable?

Question

Creationism is a reasonable alternative to evolution. After all, one of the principles of science is that every effect has a sufficient cause. Creationism posits a sufficient case for our existence as persons: a personal God who is morally holy, intelligent and self-existent.
By saying that science can make statements about the origin of the universe, evolutionists are assuming that the very same laws involved in the operation of the universe are adequate to explain the origin of the universe.
That is similar to saying that the very same laws that explain how a car functions are sufficient to explain how the car was designed and built. They aren't, because the origin of the car needed the guidance of intelligent beings.

Answer 1

The ToE says nothing about the origins of the universe - or life.

You were better off with your circular logic.

Answer 2

-The theory of evolution says that the universe arose from nothing without a cause. Is this reasonable?
The Theory does not mention the origins of the universe or the origins of life.
-After all, one of the principles of science is that every effect has a sufficient cause
One of the main principle of science is collecting data from the NATURAL world to better understand life/physics/chemistry etc. Exactly what this theory does.
-Creationism posits a sufficient case for our existence as persons: a personal God who is morally holy, intelligent and self-existent.
Where is the proof though. Yes it is a nice thing if you believe it. All the more power to ya. But there is no evidence for it. (and NO the Bible does not count as evidance)
-By saying that science can make statements about the origin of the universe, evolutionists are assuming that the very same laws involved in the operation of the universe are adequate to explain the origin of the universe.
Once again evolution has nothing to do w/ the origins of life and or the universe.
-That is similar to saying that the very same laws that explain how a car functions are sufficient to explain how the car was designed and built
Once again evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life or the universe
-They aren't, because the origin of the car needed the guidance of intelligent beings.
And finally evolution has NOTHING to do with origins of life.

So please learn at least the fundamentals before you critize. And By the way evolution never says that God could not have created the Universe.

Answer 3

"After all, one of the principles of science is that every effect has a sufficient cause."

Untrue. In fact its soooo far from the truth that I will call it a lie. You lie, sir!
Science searches for causes and the assumption that they are there to be found is basic. Some philosophers have tried to say that every effect has a sufficient cause, usually they fall into contradications. This was very well shown by Kant in the "antimonies" section of the Critique of Pure Reason.

"by saying that science can make statements about the origin of the universe, evolutionists......" Patently dishonest! "Evolutionists" do not, as a class, say that science can make statements about the origin of the universe. Your argument is mendacious tripe.

"saying that the very same laws...." Lie!

"laws that explain how a car...how car was built" Meretricious dissipience! Some laws that cover the function of the car (thermodynamics, mechanics, chemistry etc) do cover the cars production.

Answer 4

No, it is unreasonable and dishonest.

The theory of evolution says that life diversified from a single source.

The big bang theory says the universe expanded from a compact source and does not make any definitive claims as to the source. The claim is not that it arose from "nothing".

Scientists do not make claims that the physical laws within the universe are the same as those preexisting, and even raise rational claims about the absolute requirements of causation.

If the best argument for Creationism is misstating science, it is not a reasonable alternative.

Answer 5

The theory of Evolution does not say anything of the sort! Nobody has EVER suggested that there was no cause. In fact quite a few modern scientists shun the theory of the big bang because it does leave room for religions to theorise their own cause of the creation of the universe (and by the way I am a non-believer).

Seriously man, try actually researching your material before claiming it as fact.

Answer 6

The Theory of Evolution says nothing of the sort. The theory of the origin of the universe says something similar, but not quite what you have asked. Get your theories straight and we can discuss. And, by the way, which creationist theory do you ascribe to, the one where Odin, Vili, and Ve created the first two humans out of logs they found on the shore of a lake, or the one where Unkulunkulu creates everything out of reeds? My point being you cannot prove your creation myth as true, and it CANNOT be passed off as science.

Answer 7

You don't offer a better theory. You see, that's the problem with creationists - they can't explain or quantify how "we" came about. It's really quite simple - you seem to be a reasonably intelligent individual, so why don't you read Darwin's "origin of species" or even Richard Dawkins "God Delusion. The laws are clear in Natural Selection if you just take the time to read them, as opposed to sticking your head into an unfeasible and fictional book, such as the bible.

Answer 8

The theory of evolution says nothing about the origin of the universe. It is a description of the mechanism of how living things change over time.

Answer 9

The theory of evolution says no such thing. Where do you get your science?

"They aren't, because the origin of the car needed the guidance of intelligent beings."

By your logic, your complex God had to have a designer, who had to have a designer, and so on. The other place where your analogy falls apart is that cars don't mate with other cars creating tiny car babies who are slightly different and who themselves will go on to reproduce and so on.

Answer 10

Actually the theory of evolution does not discount the theory of creationism. Creationism, however, does not allow for the scientific theory of evolution. For which we have proof. Such as hereditary evolutionary charectaristics.
Knowing the necessary components for life brings us closer to the origin of existence.

Answer 11

That's a good point, however the lack of knowledge on the universe's origin does not necessarily imply it was created. Evolution and creation are incomplete works, and frankly I think science should be pursuing both ends with equal commitment. May the best theory win. :)