The Rich man and Lazarus ...isn't this clear proof of the very existence of Heaven/Hell,right after death ?

Question

Luke 16:19-31 says that after both the poor man(Lazarus) and the rich one,died,their souls were taken to Heaven (Lazarus) and Hell (the rich guy),and so forth,in details...SO it means that every soul at the time of death,will go through the same "process" ??

Answer 1

It definitely shows there is consciousness after death.

Answer 2

No it does Not.
There is one place where ha′des occurs, however, that has caused some persons to believe that the Bible hell is a place of physical torment. That is where Jesus spoke of the rich man and Lazarus, and said that the rich man died, and in ha′des experienced torment. (Luke 16:22-31) Why is the use of ha′des here so different from its use in other places? Because Jesus was giving a parable or illustration and was not speaking of the literal ha′des or the grave.—Matt. 13:34.

Consider: Is it reasonable or Scriptural to believe that a man suffers torment simply because he is rich, wears good clothing and has plenty to eat? Is it Scriptural to believe that one is blessed with heavenly life just because he is a beggar? Consider this too: Is “hell” literally within speaking distance of heaven so that an actual conversation could be carried on? Also, if the rich man were in a literal burning lake, how could Abraham send Lazarus to cool his tongue with just a drop of water on the tip of his finger? What, then, was Jesus illustrating?

In this illustration the rich man stood for the class of religious leaders who rejected and later killed Jesus. Lazarus pictured the common people who accepted God’s Son. The Bible shows that death can be used as a symbol, representing a great change in one’s life or course of action. So this illustration does not teach that some dead persons are tormented in a literal fiery hell.

Answer 3

the wealthy guy sat by with all of his earthly treasures & watched on an identical time as Lazarus replaced into in want. Lazarus did not ask for garments, riches, or housing. It says he needed the CRUMBS from the table. yet he wealthy guy replaced into so selfish he does not help in any respect. God lifts up those like Lazarus. yet human beings like the wealthy guy are in risk of Hell hearth. Abraham replaced into asserting that even in spite of the shown fact that Lazarus replaced into damaging and lowly in existence, he's now rewarded in Heaven. And the wealthy guy had treasures in the international, yet there's no ingredient in gaining the international in case you lose your soul. definite, i've got self belief that if the wealthy guy could have help those much less fortunate out of the goodness of his heart he too could have been saved. considering the fact that is an characteristic of a real follower of the Lord.

Answer 4

Ok no one throw rice cakes at me but I urge you to read Revelations 20:12 - 15. This does not speak of what it is you are referring to. Now I have read about Lazarus and the Rich man, but read Revelations plz. It reads:
12." And I saw the dead, mal and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And te dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.
13. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
14. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cat into the lake of fire."
From that I have grown to understand that the term Hades means hell. Now I have also grown to understand that Hell isn't what people think. It is a place where the spirit goes to wait. It's like a holding tank of spirits so to speak. It says the sea, Death and Hades gave up the dead. So death is another place of holding, as well as those who died in the sea? Gets interesting....but I don't believe it is instant so to speak. But we all will go before God and be judged according to our works, I think we all can agree on that....it's just when is the issue in question....I'll keep reading to see what everyone else comes up with..

Answer 5

Yep...here is a passage that helps me understand:

" 11 Now, concerning the state of the soul between death and the resurrection--Behold, it has been made known unto me by an angel, that the spirits of all men, as soon as they are departed from this mortal body, yea, the spirits of all men, whether they be good or evil, are taken home to that God who gave them life.
12 And then shall it come to pass, that the spirits of those who are righteous are received into a state of happiness, which is called paradise, a state of rest, a state of peace, where they shall rest from all their troubles and from all care, and sorrow.
13 And then shall it come to pass, that the spirits of the wicked, yea, who are evil--for behold, they have no part nor portion of the Spirit of the Lord; for behold, they chose evil works rather than good; therefore the spirit of the devil did enter into them, and take possession of their house--and these shall be cast out into outer darkness; there shall be weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth, and this because of their own iniquity, being led captive by the will of the devil.
14 Now this is the state of the souls of the wicked, yea, in darkness, and a state of awful, fearful looking for the fiery indignation of the wrath of God upon them; thus they remain in this state, as well as the righteous in paradise, until the time of their resurrection."

Answer 6

Yes. Unbelievers enter into torment. Believers into peace. Basically, for Christians, death is "like sleep" and "in the presence of the Lord".

For non-Christians, it is torment right after they die. Not sure where it is but it's not their final judgment. They are brought before God at the end of the age and judged for their sins (since they wouldn't accept the truth Christ paid for them on the cross) and cast into the lake of fire. This is their final judgment and it is eternal.

Answer 7

Of course there's a Heaven and Hell. But a new one will be created after Judgement Day or something.

Answer 8

yes it is proof, and the bible says that for the soul to be out of the body is to be with god. jesus told the thief on the cross, who asked him not to forget about him, that today he would be with him in paradise.

for trinity, the one above me, i believe after really studying the scriptures that when it says the sea will give up the dead, it means their bodies. their souls are already in hell and at this point they are reunited with their bodies, their souls come out of hades, another level of hell, they are reunited and then judged and sent back to hell. the ones that are in heaven will reunite during the rapture, 7 years earlier, before tribulation takes place. it says the asleep in god, which are the dead believers will rise first to meet with their souls in the sky, then those who are living will rise in the clouds to meet jesus, and their bodies will be made perfect before entering heaven. there are many scriptures to back this up.

Answer 9

The rich man & lazarus is totally symbolic.
It is easy to tell this when we consider that the Bible never contradicts itself (tho many claim otherwise), to several Scriptures throughout it, such as:

"...The soul that is sinning--it itself will die." --Ez 18:4c

“The first man Adam BECAME a living soul..." -- 1 Co 15:4

"His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; In that day his thoughts do perish." --Ps 146:4

"You will ... return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return." --Ge 3:19

"Man came to be a living soul." --Genesis 2:7b

"All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in She′ol, the place to which you are going." --Ec 9:10

Answer 10

No it is a parable. The water the rich man desires is the water of life. All who die rest in the dust of the earth. Read the words of David,Christ,solomon. The dead are dead in the ground,for the wages of sin is death,not torture.

Answer 11

No, because you're using the Bible. Biblical proof might be enough for Christians, but for us non-Christians, we need more than that.

And don't throw at me the fact that 'we're only now discovering that it's hot beneath the earth and that there's no way they could have known it then' because there's a little thing I like to call VOLCANOES in the world and in that area.