When you say the pledge and say 'One Nation Under God', aren't you sinning cause it is a lie?

Question

If we were one nation under God, we'd all believe in one God...right? So we don't, so we aren't one nation under god. Not to mention the other lie in the pledge...justice for all is a bit pushing it.

primoa, you don't know your history. Our founding fathers were mostly deists. They didn't want our nation to be founded on religion.

sisterzeal, I wasn't talking about people having to say it...I could care less if you want to say under god or not. But the ones who do say it, cause they are saying something that isn't true.

Primoa, at that time they hadn't broken away from england yet. it doesn't count.

ungrateful little snot? HAHAHA omg that is the best I have been called all day. I suppose you feel like George Bush Sr, that atheists shouldn't be citizens?

Answer 1

As His Creation states, they were God fearing men who founded our country. As for those who do not think this is true, read this article, it states each religion of each man who signed the Decl. of Ind. Read for yourself.
Don't believe everything you hear from any community. Where is your research saying they were atheists?

In my opinion, it is freedom of speech right? How can you make that illegal? I don't understand. Atheists always want freedom of speech and whatnot, why can't we have it? If you don't want to say it, DON'T. Liberals and pro-lifers have their own specific pledge.. second site

Do what you will. Either way, (and I'm sure this will get me thumbs down) we are under God whether you like it or not, it matters not which religion. Just a thought.

Answer 2

I would not say you are lying if you pledge alegiance to our flag. The pledge is correct if you are sincere. The part that would be a lie is not that we are under God but that there is "liberty and justice for all" We know that justice is slightly skewed in America and not all the guilty are convicted and not all the innocent are aquitted. The pledge is spoken on the basis of what you promise and if you don't have any allegiance to the flag and USA then you are lying. (and should probably move to a country where you can be a patriot)

Answer 3

It doesn't say " one nation under ONE god ". Who is not getting justice ? Courts can't be 100 % right all the time, and much is left up to the jury of not too bright of people. But no nation or system is closer to pefect than ours.

Answer 4

You're right, most of the founding fathers were either atheist or deist.

Anyway...I suppose technically it would, depending on how you looked at it. You could say that either
a) not everyone believes in God, or
b) the US is hardly following any moral code of any religion.

But you could also look at it as: God made everything, so even a nation, a piece of land, and group of people, IS under the control of God.

Either way, no one forces you to say the pledge, so if you want to say it, you could skip that line since it wasn't added until fairly recently.

Answer 5

Unlike you said the GREAT founding fathers were under God and that is how this country became great.

Answer 6

Important facts from our Founding Fathers....please read

John Adams quote:

If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave.
John Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

It already appears, that there must be in every society of men superiors and inferiors, because God has laid in the constitution and course of nature the foundations of the distinction.
John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776
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Ben Franklin quoted....

All of us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent instances of superintending providence in our favor. To that kind providence we owe this happy opportunity of consulting in peace on the means of establishing our future national felicity. And have we now forgotten that powerful friend? Or do we imagine that we no longer need his assistance? I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth-that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the Ground without his Notice, is it probable that an Empire can rise without his Aid?"
Benjamin Franklin, To Colleagues at the Constitutional Convention
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Alexander Hamilton quoted...

The fundamental source of all your errors, sophisms and false reasonings is a total ignorance of the natural rights of mankind. Were you once to become acquainted with these, you could never entertain a thought, that all men are not, by nature, entitled to a parity of privileges. You would be convinced, that natural liberty is a gift of the beneficent Creator to the whole human race, and that civil liberty is founded in that; and cannot be wrested from any people, without the most manifest violation of justice.
Alexander Hamilton, The Farmer Refuted, February 23, 1775
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Thomas Jefferson quoted..

And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever.
Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, Query 18, 1781
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George Washington quoted...

I now make it my earnest prayer, that God would have you, and the State over which you preside, in his holy protection, that he would incline the hearts of the Citizens to cultivate a spirit of subordination and obedience to Government, to entertain a brotherly affection and love for one another, for their fellow Citizens of the United States at large, and particularly for their brethren who have served in the Field, and finally, that he would most graciously be pleased to dispose us all, to do Justice, to love mercy, and to demean ourselves with that Charity, humility and pacific temper of mind, which were the Characteristicks of the Divine Author of our blessed Religion, and without an humble imitation of whose example in these things, we can never hope to be a happy Nation.
George Washington, circular letter of farewell to the Army, June 8, 1783
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Please click on the link below for more from our God fearing Founding Fathers.

Answer 7

WRONG. No, dear, just because you think he is not there does not mean He isn't still in control and still over us. In fact, you should thank Christians because if it weren't for those of us who believe and profess to believe, you might be drinking your water
out of the same pond they dump urine in, just like Ethiopia. God blesses his own;
you get the good fall-out by association. Blind as you are, you still reside here, so you get to be a spoiled little brat who thinks all these blessings of crops of wheat and herd of healthy cattle, etc. is of course, mans great ingenious work. You have no clue what you speak of. You are lucky you have the teeth in your mouth and lungs strong enough to breath the air God gives
you. Ungrateful little snot....

Answer 8

Just because you don't feel that way today, doesn't mean that isn't the way the nation was founded originally.
Get a grip. Follow the rest of your crowd and don't bother saying it.

Answer 9

Well...I just say it as a nice gesture, otherwise the pledge would get long and ridiculous to say....
"Under diety of your choice unless you're an athiest, with liberty and justice for all who have lots of money."
True, but long.

Answer 10

That is a lie, so is Liberty and Justice for all, Pledging allegience to the republic when we stand against it, and indivisible. I just don't say it.