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weren't they sinners too. What makes them so special? What does some body have to do to become a saint? How many saints are there?

2007-08-10 06:51:36 · 23 answers · asked by Esperanza 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Hi, and congrats on a very good question -
but I have to warn you that the truthful answer is gonna make me about as popular as a hair in a biscuit. Esspecially with the Catholics and I know because I was brought up Catholic.
Anyway, here goes: (you asked for it):

SAINT means "set aside one". I teach from the manuscripts, and the description
of a Saint is nothing like what you think.
When Satan rebelled, he caused a great war. All of us (yes, we were all created souls then) responded in different ways to that war - some followed Satan; many stayed neutral and didn't care as long as it didn't affect them; and then there was a group who stood loyally on Gods side, right from the beginning: and Satan was defeated. God could have just destroyed those who followed Satan, but He was not too happy with those who stayed neutral, either. So instead of destroying all those children, a plan was devised for the redemption of them. The plan was: That the AGE would be destroyed (not the earth, not the terrafirma - just the AGE changed) and God brought in the second of the Earth Ages, which is the flesh age, where each soul would come thru one time, born of woman with all memory of the past erased,
to make an ultimate decision of who they would follow: Christ or Satan. To make the plan work, two things had to hold true:
first, each soul must maintain freewill to make decisions WITHOUT THE INTERFERENCE OF GOD IN THE INDIVIDUAL LIFE - this is the answer to those who would ask "Why does God let bad things happen to good people?" Its because he promised not to interfere.
Second, theres not much use in being able to choose between good and good, so we needed a comparitor. Satan provides that
comparitor in this flesh age. His spirit roams around, etc, etc.
Okay - that was for background so you understand what I'm talking about.
Back to the Saints:
Remember that group that I just told you about who remained stedfast on Gods side and with God, defeated Satan? Well right after the war, and BEFORE God changed the age and put Adam and Eve in the Garden, a couple of things happened:
First thing was Satan was judged and condemned to death; the reason he is still alive is only because remember: we need him as a comparitor. He will die soon enough. The other thing that happened was that another trial was held: but this was for those who stayed loyal to God. During this trial, God found them justified, and named them His "Election". Now you remember the criteria for being one of the election: you had to have stayed on Gods side during that war with Satan, which was way, way BEFORE Adam and Eve.
Often in Scripture, the Elect or Election is called by another name: What name?
S A I N T S. or "set aside ones" - Set aside for what? They assisted God in defeated Satan last time, and when Satan comes as Antichrist this time, these elect, or "set aside ones" will defeat him AGAIN.
Thats what the Elect are set aside to do in this generation. These are those in Mark 13 who Christ says will be delivered up before Death (just another of Satans many names) as a witness against him, and as a testimony for the true Christ. Thats what they are set-aside to do. In fact, Scripture describes these Elect or Saints, as the only ones in human flesh WHO DO NOT HAVE FREE WILL. They simply do not need it:
they are not here to make a decision between Christ and Satan - they already proved to God whom they would choose, so they do not need free will, and God CAN INTERFERE in their lives - he moves them to ready them for what they are to do.

Now HOW IN THE WORLD CAN A CHURCH NAME A SAINT? YOU TELL ME. AND HOW INSULTING MUST IT BE TO GOD THAT ANY HUMAN WOULD DARE NAME ONE?? That person they name a saint on earth, may have been the Holiest person we ever heard of, but THEY MAY HAVE BEEN ONE OF THOSE WHO FOLLOWED SATAN IN THE WAR.
We do not know. How can man impose on God to add to his list???

No man, no pope, no church can ever name anyone a saint; I'll leave you to figure out just how happy God is gonna be with the whole bunch of them.
Oh, and to make it worse: after they name a saint, then they have the nerve to pray to it.

2007-08-10 07:13:42 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 4

i will answer you final question first - no longer something. i'm a saint considering the incontrovertible fact that's what the Lord Jesus suggested i may be when I asked him to forgive my sins and are available into my existence - this handed off fifty 5 years in the past and that i'm nevertheless a saint. If we tried to diploma what the point became for transforming into a saint we would by no potential diploma up - or if we had to declare who might desire to be one and who could no longer a similar element might take place. you purely might desire to examine those people who church communities have desperate are saints and then replaced their minds to work out this. i'm happy that the alternative rests no longer on guy yet on God and he's the guy who sustains that decision - even while issues bypass incorrect He would not substitute His innovations or out status - He purely facilitates us upward thrust up, dirt ourselves down and come back on the righ pathway. desire you detect Him after which you will locate all your solutions.

2016-11-11 23:14:18 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Everyone is a sinner. Every sinner who is saved - that is, everyone who is in heaven - is a saint. The Church officially canonizes, or recognizes, certain saints because of the exemplary holiness of their lives on earth. But the act of canonization doesn't "make" them a saint. It simply recognizes that they are saints. There are thousands of canonized saints, but there are undoubtedly many millions of saints in heaven.

2007-08-10 07:09:12 · answer #3 · answered by PaulCyp 7 · 2 1

Of course they were sinners, that's one of the reasons that they're great role models! They're people who were ordinary people who turned themselves over to God and tried to live the most Christ-like life possible.
There are a lot of conditions and things that have to occur for one to be declared a saint, its not a thing that's dealt with lightly.
There are hundreds of saints.
You know if you're interested in saints and all of the information that you are asking about you can always research it and find out.

2007-08-10 06:59:24 · answer #4 · answered by Michelle R 3 · 1 2

to become a saint in the catholic church these things must happen...

"1. A local bishop investigates the candidate's life and writings for evidence of heroic virtue. The information uncovered by the bishop is sent to the Vatican.

2. A panel of theologians and the cardinals of the Congregation for Cause of Saints evaluate the candidate's life.

3. If the panel approves, the pope proclaims that the candidate is venerable, which means that the person is a role model of Catholic virtues.

4. The next step toward sainthood is beatification. Beatification allows a person to be honored by a particular group or region. In order to beatify a candidate, it must be shown that the person is responsible for a posthumous miracle. Martyrs, those who died for their religious cause, can be beatified without evidence of a miracle. On October 20th, 2003, Mother Teresa was beatified. She will now be known as Blessed Mother Teresa of Kolkata.

5..In order for the candidate to be considered a saint, there must be proof of a second posthumous miracle. If there is, the person is canonized. "

2007-08-10 07:17:41 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 4

Scripture declare that all of those who have accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior are the Saints of God. A saint is someone who has been sanctified to do the work of God. All of God's children have been washed by the blood of Christ and ordered to fulfill the Great Commision found at the end of each gospel. Here are some verses in which the bible calls the church God's saints. (unlike the catholic practice)

1CO 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be SAINTs, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

EPH 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the SAINTs which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

RO 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the SAINTs according to the will of God

PHM 1:5 Hearing of thy love and faith, which thou hast toward the Lord Jesus, and toward all SAINTs;

2007-08-10 06:59:47 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

The Bible definition of a saint is anyone who is a Christian.

But like so many other concepts in Scripture, churches and people come along and create confusion by redefining everything.

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2007-08-10 07:01:47 · answer #7 · answered by Hogie 7 · 3 1

I've read about saints-most of what happens to them seems to involve a lot of suffering.

2007-08-10 06:55:37 · answer #8 · answered by Julia Sugarbaker 7 · 1 0

Certain things have to happen before and after the person's death to be made a saint.
It's usually a massive personal sacrifice of themselves to God and Jesus and to stand firm in thier beliefs. Joan of Arc is a good example
There are COUNTLESS saints.

2007-08-10 06:54:44 · answer #9 · answered by ~Heathen Princess~ 7 · 1 1

We're all called to be Saints at Baptism.

"Cannonization" is who the RC Church holds up for our role modles. It's kinda like "Employee of the Month" club.

Have you heard the song, "We fall Down" by Bob Carlisle?
" ... We fall down, we get up ... and the saints are just the sinners, Who fall down ... and get up."

2007-08-10 07:04:48 · answer #10 · answered by Giggly Giraffe 7 · 3 1

Saints are people who have accepted Jesus into their heart and are living a Christian life. That's the Christian answer, the catholics believe differently about it.

2007-08-10 07:14:38 · answer #11 · answered by ? 7 · 4 1

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