To Jehovah Witnesses out There....?

Question

Please explain why you guys disfellowship members in the congregation for committing a sin?
And please don't quote that scripture in the Bible where Paul was addressing the congregation saying " if a brother is unrepentant cut him off from the congregation"
Reason being if you read lower done in that same Chapter you would see that Paul told the congregation "to keep admonishing him as a Brother"
Try explaining it to me some other way.

Answer 1

Jehovah's Witnesses practice the Scriptural practice of disfellowshipping for unrepentance of such serious sins as fornication, drug abuse, stealing, and apostasy. Baptized Witnesses who join the military or publicly engage in worship with another religion are considered to have disassociated themselves from Jehovah's Witnesses.

Contrary to the misinformation of anti-Witnesses, it is quite possible to become inactive in the JW religion without becoming disfellowshipped. As long as one's lifestyle does not bring reproach upon the congregation, and as long as one does not advocate one's disagreements with the religion, the congregation has no interest in "investigating", exposing, and disfellowshipping an inactive former Jehovah's Witness.

For those who are disfellowshipped or disassociated, a primary goal is to shock the person into recognizing the serious of their wrong so that they rejoin the congregation in pure worship. Since the primary bonds that are broken involve friendship and spiritual fellowship, it is well understood that family bonds remain intact. Parents, siblings, and grown children of disfellowshipped and disassociated ones sometimes choose to limit what they may feel is discouraging or "bad association" but that is a personal decision and is not required by their religion.

Former Witnesses who are disfellowshipped or disassociated are typically treated in accord with the Scriptural pattern explained in these Scriptures:

(1 Corinthians 5:11-13) Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man. ...Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.

(Titus 3:10) As for a man that promotes a sect, reject him after a first and a second admonition

(Romans 16:17) Now I exhort you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them.

(2 Thessalonians 3:6) Now we are giving you orders, brothers, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, to withdraw from every brother walking disorderly and not according to the tradition you received from us.

(2 Thessalonians 3:14) But if anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter, keep this one marked, stop associating with him, that he may become ashamed.

(2 John 10) If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him.

(Matthew 18:17) If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations

Becoming baptized as a Jehovah's Witnesses is not a trivial step. At a minimum, a student must demonstrate months of regular meeting attendance and public ministry, then must himself express the desire to be baptized. The candidate then spends hours answering hundreds of bible questions wherein he expresses both a clear understanding and personal conviction regarding Jehovah's Witness teachings in at least three separate interviews with three different elders. The candidate must vocally agree to be baptized in front of hundreds or thousands of eyewitnesses, and must be publicly immersed in water. This is not a momentary emotional decision by an unreasoning child. Dedication as a Witness required hard work and determination at the time.

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Answer 2

Ok, the passage you are talking about is found in 2 Thessalonians 3: 14, 15. For the benefit of both sides, a study of the context seems to be in order, so here goes:

This epistle was written because, as chapter 2 opens, it seems that someone had previously forged a letter to them in the name of the Apostle Paul, telling them that the persecutions they were experiencing were part of the "great and terrible day of the Lord". Having been previously taught that they would escape the Great Tribulation, they were "shaken in mind" (2:1, 2). That is why, in the first epistle to that congregation, Paul sets the matter straight by giving them an outline of the progression of events in the days preceding the Great Tribulation.

Now, in this second Epistle to them, Paul tells the congregation that God will repay with tribulation those who were trying to deceive them. (1:6-8). In chapter 2, he goes on to explain about the Anti-Christ who would be coming during the time of the Great Tribulation and he warns them that the spirit of the anti-Christ was already present, evidenced in the false teachings of these imposters. He tells the congregation that there would come a great falling away due to their lies and delusions and that such ones would not believe the truth even when it is told to them.

Now, in chapter three, Paul warns the congregation to separate themselves from these trouble makers who were, apparently, not only spreading lies but also were not living according to Grace, thereby producing fruits that showed them to be imposters in the congregation. At the same time, he never advocates that they be thrown out of the congregation, for he sums up with verse 15, that they should "continue admonishing him as a brother".

So, then, what does Paul mean here when he says "have no company with him, that he may be ashamed"? Paul spoke also to the Corinthian congregation in like manner, when he says "not to keep company with" them. Throw him out of the congregation? No! How can you continue admonishing him as a brother if you do? Paul says also, "yet count him not as an enemy". Ostracize him? Apparently not.

What Paul is saying here is that you may not want to be hanging out with such a one outside the church, if you feel such fellowship will harm you spiritually. In chapter 3, vs 3, Paul says, "but the Lord is faithful, who shall establish you, and keep you from evil". Therefore, having such a one in the church CANNOT harm the church. But outside continual fellowship with such a one could be harmful to someone who, as it says in verse two ("for not all men have faith") may not have a strong enough faith to resist temptation.

So, the bottom line: if you think someone's behavior may stumble you, don't hang out with them excessively, but don't kick them out of the church. Paul is not saying this at all--when you read in context.

Answer 3

Wow! 'They are not disfellowshiped for a sin but for an attitude'! Where's the proof text for THAT one? Big Brother is really hard at work if that's what's now going on.

The attitude of JWs is that all doctrine, instruction and explanations from the Governing Body must be obeyed / accepted because to question them is to question God. That's why they are so heavy-handed with their sanctions. The minute a 'bad attitude' towards the GB is detected, that person is considered to be a spiritual threat to the congregation. This is a form of intimidation, and because it works very well, in the main, it's used regularly. The very threat of disfellowshiping is enough to make many questioners stop questioning. Of course, I'm not a JW, but I've had decades of experience with them and have come to the conclusion that they have no real love for those who are struggling with the JW faith - they only love those who love 'the organization'.

Answer 4

properly an identical way that we've a private call and could prefer to be noted as with the aid of our call fairly of guy, woman, Boy & so forth is an identical way that God feels. Psalms eighty 3:18 says "would human beings comprehend which you, whose call is Jehovah,You on my own are the main severe over all of the earth." the shown fact that his call is reported in the Bible shows God needs his call to be ordinary & on the grounds that we are his witnesses or followers, we are noted as Jehovah's Witnesses.

Answer 5

I didn't realize this was a policy of the Jevovah's Witnesses. But it seems very much like the separatism I experienced in the Baptist church I attended. They claimed to be good Christian people, and they were - AS LONG AS YOU ATTENDED THEIR CHURCH AND DID THINGS THEIR WAY.

Even Jesus hung out with thieves and prostitutes and beggars. Why? Because he was trying to convert them.

If you remove yourself from someone simply because they sin, you also remove any chance you have to be a good influence on that person.

I am a Christian, and I believe that the only way we can make the world a better place is to be loving and kind to those who are different from us... not by pushing them away from us.

Answer 6

well as Jehovah's Witnesses we have to do what the Scriptures tell us, remember its God's word, Now Disfelloshipping is not done just because someone sins, we all sin, its done when someone continues to show an unrepenant attitude its doen for 2 reasons one to keep the congregation clean (look at what Christendom has done by allowing those sorts of people in the church fornication, homosexuality etc) TWO its to shame the sinner to repent & return to the congregation now what does that scripture say, lets look at it should we ignore it, (1 Corinthians 5:9-13) 9 In my letter I wrote YOU to quit mixing in company with fornicators, 10 not [meaning] entirely with the fornicators of this world or the greedy persons and extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, YOU would actually have to get out of the world. 11 But now I am writing YOU to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man. 12 For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do YOU not judge those inside, 13 while God judges those outside? “Remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves.”

(1 Corinthians 6:9-11) 9 What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, 10 nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom. 11 And yet that is what some of YOU were. . .


Jesus gave the same advise (Matthew 18:15-17) . . .Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, in order that at the mouth of two or three witnesses every matter may be established. 17 If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector.

NOW a TAX COLLECTOR was someone despised by the Jews, The purpose of disfelloshipping some one so you see the Scriptures tell us what to do, & its for the good of the congregation, remeber Jesus never said all would be saved

(Matthew 7:21-23) 21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.

Answer 7

Short and to the point:


This is done in order to protect the rest of the members, because that one person who sinned, might influence the others to do the same.

Also, if that person does not feel any consequences for his or her actions then they will continue to sin, and this might cause others to fall also. But by not allowing them to be associate with the members of the congregation, it gives the person time to meditate over what they did, and to honestly repent.

Answer 8

Wow - you got some long winded answers. I won't even bother to read them. Their practices and beliefs behind them are extremely flawed.

Answer 9

simple, let supposed you are married and your husband betray you once, ok you shows mercy to him, you forgive him but now let ´s supposed he betray you two or three times and keep doing the betray with the same woman what do you do? you expulse him from your house and stop having a close relationship and also you wish your mother or family do the same stop having a close relationship with him, cause he lies and betray you and make you suffer, well exactly the same we do.

God himself had suffered so much cause he expulsed the third part of his sons (Revelation 12:7) and we can´t say he is evil, should we?
they decide to do something against the bible ´s principle
and don´t show repentance, we will accept them as soon as they accept to attach to the bible as our guide.

If you prefer that all people who do whatever they want (fornication, drug abuse , steal money, etc etc) stay inside of your church and show no repentance , be careful cause one day you won´t find your wallet, or one of your kids will be kidnapped.