So, atheists: You're saying the rocks from the Big Bang died a long time ago? And we'll never find the missing

Question

missing rock from which we sprang?
Carbon dating only dates relatively recently formed rocks?

Didn't it rain on the rocks and form mud from the dust? Didn't life spring from this primordial mud? Can we ever find the missing rock that formed the pool where life originated?

I heard this 'theory' right here on R&R a while back. I'm trying to get the facts about your beliefs, not mine.

Besides, I went to the biology department and asked for a creation scientist. What did I get? A violation notice!

Thanks to everyone who wrote a thorough and informative answer. I certainly learned a lot. Also learned from HynoPope that I might, just might, be a fruitcake on this one.

Answer 1

" the rocks from the Big Bang died a long time ago"

you are making less sense with every question. Seriously, are you on medication or drunk?

Your misconceptions about the big bang are so severe, I don't even know where to start. After the inflationary period when the universe cooled down enough for protons, neutrons and electrons to bond, we ended up with a lot of hydrogen and helium. Rocks weren't involved. But atoms that were present in that age are in you, me, and everything you see. Others were re-forged by the first and later stars and supernovae to heavier elements (also present in you, me and everything).

The natural world is amazing.

Answer 2

1. Earthly rocks formed long after the Big Bang.

2. Earthly rocks undergo a recycling process over time. There are no "original" rocks as they have been, repeatedly, melted and reprocessed through geologic time.

3. Carbon dating is not used on rocks or things older than about 50,000 years.

Try learning a little science before attempting to demean it.

ADDENDUM

Your attempt at clarification simply made your logic appear more foolish. Let's assume your first statement

"Didn't it rain on the rocks and form mud from the dust?"

is correct. What do you think mud and dust are? Decomposed rock! That rather nullifies your ill-conceived conclusion of:

"Can we ever find the missing rock that formed the pool where life originated?"

Don't worry. The fall semester starts soon.

Answer 3

What rocks from the Big Bang??? You clearly don't understand what the Big Bang model actually says. At first, the universe was incredibly hot. It didn't cool off enough for atoms for almost 300,000 years. It wasn't until after the first generation of stars that the materials in rocks could be formed.

The Earth didn't form until about 4.5 billion years ago. The Big Bang was how the whole universe started and was 13.7 billion years ago. In other words, the earth is only 1/3 as old as the universe.

No, carbon dating isn't used to date the older rocks because the half life of carbon 14 is too short. In fact, carbon dating isn't used for rocks at all: it is used for biological materials. Instead, either Uranium series, potassium-argon, or rubidium strontium dating are used for old rocks. These can all be used for dates that are billions of years old.

The oldest rocks on earth are pretty rare: there has been plenty of time for them to be eroded, subducted, or otherwise modified. We do have some, though.

Answer 4

Actually, we are living on the rock from which we sprang. This rock formed under 5 billion years ago, though. It's just more recent than the Big Bang (which did not result in rocks).


Heavier elements come together because of fusion inside stars. Get enough hydrogen together and it will smash itself to make heavier elements. Expecting Earth to show up just after the Big Bang is a little premature. The oldest planet we know of wasn't even around until a billion or so years after the Big Bang, and it's the only planet we know of that is anywhere near that old.

Answer 5

Let's clear this up.
Radio Carbon Dating is good for finding the dates of organic items back to about 200,000 years after that it gets too foggy.
Potassium/Argon Dating is good for time periods from 1 million to a couple of hundred million years ago.
Uranium Decay Dating is good for several million to several billion years ago.
And there are others including associative layering and others.
The Hydrogen that formed in the Big Bang still exists, it makes up the water in your body along with the oxygen that was formed in the heart of a star. The iron in your blood was formed by a super nova some 6 to 7 billion years ago.
I suggest taking a good college courses in anthropology, organic chemistry, atomic physics, and cosmology.
Have a real grateful day.

Answer 6

Why aren't you asking this in the science section? The big bang did not produce rocks. It produced subatomic particles as energy seperated from matter. The big bang is measured by microwaves, not radiometric dating. The half life of carbon isotopes is relatively short compared to other isotopes. For really old rocks we use potassium/argon or uranium/lead. For what purpose are you flaunting utter ignorance of geology, astrophysics and biology in the religion section?

Response to your follow-up details. It seems highly possible that the chemical reactions that preceded an RNA phenotypic world (beginning of life, life defined as something that can store information and replicate) took place around undersea volcanic vents. Volcanism is not a stable geological process. Undersea volcanic vents that existed billions of years ago have long since been recycled through the Earth's mantle.

Further follow-up: Getting facts from Yahoo answers? Try instead reading a good book; Neil deGrasse Tyson's Cosmos, is a good one to start with.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

I am not an atheist, just a lowly Ethnologist, But carbon 14 dating only works on stones that may have been dropped in a fire by a careless person, or what have you. If a stone tool, were dropped into a camp fire, it could be dated from the time it was dropped. If, say the tool were immolated again somehow, it can only be dated from that time.
Since (obviously rocks don't respire, they do not take in carbon 14, so this method does not work on them.

Answer 9

I never said that, but I do know that rocks aren't alive.

I know very little about the big bang in fact

but I don't how being unable to prove the origin of the universe is some how proof your god exists.

It's simply proof that the human animal isn't as smart as it likes to think

Answer 10

Genius, rocks don't die.
And no one said we sprang from rocks. We sprang from prokaryotes. Define recent, because christian people consider recent 100 years ago since they think the world has only been around for a few thousand.