If God the father and Jesus have the same will then why did Jesus say "Why have thou forsaken me" ?

Question

Matthew 27: 46

My God, My God, why have You abandoned Me -- leaving Me helpless, forsaking and failing Me in My need?


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Answer 1

Because He was in human form, and as a human He doubted for a moment. He went on to say for His Father's will to be done. Whenever I feel weak or doubt I ask God for His will to be done. AS I see it, it was Jesus leading by example to show us that, even when we doubt, God is there with us in our time of need.

Answer 2

They don't have the same will. That is a heresy called Monothelitism, and was condemned by Ecumenical Synod in the early centuries of the Church.
But the passage you cite has nothing to do with that. Jesus was simply identifying himself as the Messiah by quoting a Messianic Psalm.
Ancient theologians argued from soteriology on the issue. The only reason the question of a single will is popping up these days is that the ancient model of salvation has been eliminated in all but the Eastern/Oriental Orthodox Churches.

Answer 3

This is a false teaching.

They are NOT the same.

They have the same goals and aspirations, as many fathers and sons do. but they are separate.
Almighty God, Jesus' father in heaven, had no beginning..and has no end.
But Jesus DID have a beginning.
Proverbs 8; 22-31

He existed before he was SENT to the earth.
(John 5:19) Therefore, in answer, Jesus went on to say to them: “Most truly I say to YOU, The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he beholds the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son also does in like manner.

Answer 4

Yeah, I asked someone about this bitta BullSh!t when I first heard about it when I was about ten - the answer I got can't have been satisfactory otherwise I mighta gone over to the DarkSide.
My BS detector was active at an early age AND lucky for me I had a secular upbringing with neither parent believing in ThePixie.

I'm so pleased I realised very early in life that the InvisiblePixie phenomena was a scam that Parasitic Pastors, Padres, Parsons and Priests used so's they don't have to get a real jobs.

But, you can't deny, there's really good money to be made from religion IF you can keep a straight face.
Oh, a psychopathic lack of conscience helps - it's such a damn shame I've got one; I coulda made a motza.

Answer 5

it somewhat is something that i've got continually puzzled approximately, and that i do no longer think of that that is ever been defined to me... why did 'God' forsake Jesus at his time of maximum desire? The unbelievable suffering and extreme soreness that Jesus became into recent technique at that ingredient would try everybody's faith... yet why, in the Christian tale, became into he left there to rot on my own, purely like a common guy or woman would be? became into this area of the story meant to coach us mortals that God has experienced extreme soreness and suffering too? And that He has experienced what it somewhat is desire to go through as a human? yet why did Jesus have a disaster of religion on the very 2nd while he mandatory it the main? If Jesus is God, then why became into he chatting with himself? it somewhat is like me asking myself a question! Why could no longer he locate himself and his God powers at that 2nd in time? A Christian would say that God would under no circumstances forsake any human beings if we've self assurance in Him and open our hearts to Him. So why did Jesus sense forsaken? It would not make any sense in the story.

Answer 6

It is because Jesus never said he was God. Jesus is the son of God. He is not the Almighty God. Jesus is an angel. In fact all through out the Gospels, Jesus gave all glory to his father and never once said he was God.

Mat 10:18 Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.

John 5:30 I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative; just as I hear, I judge; and the judgment that I render is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me.

John 6:38 because I have come down from heaven to do, not my will, but the will of him that sent me.

Jesus is the promised seed. He is the first creation of God. He came down willingly to save mankind.

Now people that believe in the Trinity will quote a verse where Jesus says, "I and the father are one." but they mis apply it. Jesus was saying that he and his father are one in purpose and thought. Sort of like a winning sports team. They must act as one.

But to give other proof, at Gen 2:24 it says, "That is why a man will leave his father and his mother and he must stick to his wife and they must become one flesh."

They must become one, as in thought and purpose.

Answer 7

Jesus has a will independent of God's but he chooses to do what God wants, rather than what he wants.

When he said, "Why has Thou forsaken me?" this was an expression of anguish (not accusation). He was not rebelling against the Father's will... he was wondering why God would leave him (eg withdraw from his heart).

It is not rebellion to have questions.

Answer 8

Hello Brother,

From the phrase it shows Jesus(pbuh) is just a Man asking God for Help.

No matter how you twist the phrase or change it in The Christian Bible, you can't deny the meaning of this phrase.
"Jesus(pbuh) is a Prophet of God"

Salam
htw_guy
[Quran 36:22-36:27
"And why should I not worship Him (Allah Alone) Who has created me and to Whom you shall be returned. "Shall I take besides Him aliha (gods), if the Most Beneficent (Allah) intends me any harm, their intercession will be of no use for me whatsoever, nor can they save me? "Then verily, I should be in plain error. "Verily! I have believed in your Lord, so listen to me!" It was said (to him when the disbelievers killed him): "Enter Paradise." He said: "Would that my people knew! "That my Lord (Allah) has forgiven me, and made me of the honoured ones!"]

Answer 9

At the moment of abandonment was the Father's dumping time on His Son !!! He dumped all of the confessed and the to be confessed sins on His Son !!! You should know the rest of the story by now !!! http://www.getsaved.com/

Answer 10

It's actually a quote from a Psalm, and only one of the Gospels has him saying that. I believe Jesus was fully human, and in his suffering and anguish, surely in those moments he felt alone and abandoned.