Atheists, tell me something. What's your point?

Question

Atheists, let's say there is no God. Very good. We now know there is no God.

Let's say there is no world. Very good. We now know there is no world. But there is an error, what do we live in? A world! And who created it? No one did. It has always been there. But how come it has came to an existence? Because it was simply there. But why do you think it has simply been there? Because that's what I believe.

Doesn't that sound like believing in fairy tale and Santa Clause? Sure. I mean, you believe the world was magically sent from no where.

Now, let's see which point of view is more logical. I say God created the world, since there is a God. How do I know that? Because that's what I acknowledged. If there is a world, then there MUST be something out there. Whatever that is, we called it God.

But Atheists are left with believing the world was simply there. no creator whatsoever. So Christians aren't the ones believing in Santa and Fairly tale.

Which side weighs more?

Christian: There is a God, the creator for all things. Sounds reasonable to me.

Atheists: There is no God. The world has simply been there. Is this reasonable?


Atheists: “ Prove your God to me.”

Christian: “ He is proven to us all. Look around you.”

Atheists: I see nothing.”

My question is: What is your point being unable to accept Christ?

Answer 1

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Answer 2

um... I shouldn't bother to answer a question with so many typos...I don't even know what a "fairly tale" is, but here goes. Please sir, I invite you to read books written by Richard Dawkins if you truly want to know the answer to your "question." if you do not wish to go out and actually look into the topic instead of just believeing what you were told to as a child and adult, then I shall post some quotes of his for you.

"I don't think God is an explanation at all. It's simply redescribing the problem.
We are trying to understand how we have got a complicated world, and we have an explanation in terms of a slightly simpler world, and we explain that in terms of a slightly simpler world and it all hangs together down to an ultimately simple world.
Now, God is not an explanation of that kind. God himself cannot be simple if he has power to do all the things he is supposed to do.
-- Richard Dawkins, "Nick Pollard interviews Richard Dawkins" (Damars: 1999) ††

"I believe that an orderly universe, one indifferent to human preoccupations, in which everything has an explanation even if we still have a long way to go before we find it, is a more beautiful, more wonderful place than a universe tricked out with capricious ad hoc magic."
-- Richard Dawkins, Unweaving the Rainbow (contributed by Ray Franz)


I suspect the reason is that most people ... have a residue of feeling that Darwinian evolution isn't quite big enough to explain everything about life. All I can say as a biologist is that the feeling disappears progressively the more you read about and study what is known about life and evolution. I want to add one thing more. The more you understand the significance of evolution, the more you are pushed away from the agnostic position and towards atheism. Complex, statistically improbable things are by their nature more difficult to explain than simple, statistically probable things.
-- Richard Dawkins, from The New Humanist, the Journal of the Rationalist Press Association, Vol 107 No 2


Please read his books for far more elaborate detail of Dawkin's explanation and witisisms.

Answer 3

It is a shame when people cannot be respectful of others' beliefs and take the opportunity to try to belittle those other people.

It is often the case that those who protest so much are not secure in their own beliefs. This is not unusual but it is important to do some soul-searching of your own instead of trying to deflect your insecurities onto others.

Passively trying to put words into others' mouths (like: you believe the world was magically sent from no where) is disrespectful and intellectually dishonest. In fact, science is more palpable than religion, so it's odd that you try to use this argument. Think about that the very essence of a "faith" is. (Not YOUR faith, necessarily, but what it means to have faith) and you will see the hypocrisy in this question.

I'm sure your God does not condone nastiness, so please don't put atheists down like this, in such a condescending manner. If you are ever interested in any sort of honest discussion I'm sure you will be able to find many people eager to engage.

And, umm... Jenni? You think that other Christians are embarrassed by people who speak/post like this? You are correct. Just don't blame us. Haha. This "question" seems more like an attempt to have an email box fill up than any sort of honest question. There have already been over 50 emails received for this (telling the questioner there is a new answer to his question.) Maybe soon he'll get one from God telling him to cut the crap.

Answer 4

Sometimes I wonder but then when I wake up and see all there is in my city, state, country and the world and I have to believe that this was not just some accident. I may not be sure about the people or governments but I know when I get up the sun will rise, the tides will rise and fall, time will pass and I will stop and smell the roses. Peace God Bless

Answer 5

I don't pretend to know where our world came from, to do so without any proof whatsoever would be the height of ignorance.

I only believe in ideas that make sense to me, and this does not. What does make sense to me are the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama, who told his disciples that we all view the world through the desires and values that we project onto it, and that we can never answer such questions until we remove these subconcious biases. It's obvious that yours are still intact, since you seem to view all atheists as something rather unpleasant instead of the precious human beings that they are, no different from you or I...

Answer 6

I really could not care less about you believing in a sky fairy. This is what concerns me about your religion.
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In 1184, the Synod of Verona legislated that burning was to be the official punishment for heresy. This decree was later reaffirmed by the Fourth Council of the Lateran in 1215, the Synod of Toulouse in 1229, and numerous spiritual and secular leaders up through the 17th century.

Witch trials became increasingly popular through the 14th and 15th century in Scotland, Spain, England, Switzerland, Austria, and Germany. It is estimated that up to four million convicted witches and heretics were burned at the stake during this time.

Among the best known convicted heretics to be executed by burning were Jan Hus (1415), Joan of Arc (1431) and Giordano Bruno (1600).

Contrary to popular history, none of the executions in the Salem witch trials were carried out by burning, but rather by hanging (and in one case, by pressing under stones).

During the reign of Queen Mary in England (1553-1558), some two hundred and seventy seven people were burnt at the stake for heresy
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Hitler was a Christian and argue as you like so were the rest of the Nazi party. Bosnia was another religious slaughter and so was Rwanda.

I have seen enough from your preachers on TBS and CBN to expect it to happen all over again if they ever get into real power.
The Puritans and the other protestants were no better than the Catholics when they had their chance at it either.

Religion ruled the dark ages and seems determined to take us back there again.
At the time of the American Revolution the colonists were killing each other over religion, especially with your famous Pilgrims as persecutors.

Do you begin to understand why the founding fathers wanted religion to be kept out of politics yet?

Answer 7

You should be ashamed to think logic played into that at all. Where did your god come from? Was he just magically there? All you've done is added a step to something from nothing. Plus you never take in to account all the things wrong with the bible that disprove it. I'm agnostic so I can say there could be a god. The very nature of a god would make it impossible to say it's impossible. But I'm not going to say there is one because there's no proof of one. I will say the christian god and jesus are fictitious. Made up if you didn't understand. So what's you point?

Answer 8

I used to be an atheist before but thankfully not now, 100 % believer now and the atheists here that have not converted yet are only here for one reason, to learn more about God because they are fence sitters still not sure if they want to jump in. REAL atheists like I used to be would never hang out in a place such as this that is full of religion. in their questions and answers they will deny it but that is only so their friends that see their questions an answers will not make fun of them.they will put up a very strong anti-God front but a front is all it really is.....100 % here are secretly fence sitters..no true atheists here so keep preaching, they really do want to hear it...... even the ones you are talking about....HOWEVER if you see violations of yahoo guidelines please report 100% of the abuses, they can sit on the fence but only decently !

Answer 9

Good grief, if you don't understand atheism, just say so. Your lame attempts at cleverness are embarrassing.

Let's see...you are the one that believes in an invisible, omnipotent God that doesn't make himself known to his believers and lets his faithful suffer while he watches from the sky. You are the one that believes in a six day creation, 6,000 years ago even when scientific evidence shows that the earth is billions of years old. You are the one that believes life has no purpose except to die and go to heaven after you're dead to live in perpetual glory for eternity while those you love who didn't pass the grade burn in hell while you watch from the balcony.

The world was created in the Big Bang. There's more evidence for that then your lame religious fiction

atheist

Answer 10

You are looking at this question very simplistically, but the reason for the world forming is much more complicated to Athiests and those that do not believe in your God.
I am not a scientist, so I will not try to explain any of the other theories to you, however, I'm sure some Athiest out there will give you a great answer...because most Athiests are very intelligent=)

Answer 11

Arbitrary moral code limiting the possibilities life holds for us, at the same time the acts committed against humanity that your cult has perpetrated have f*cked us all up. God is an idea, a whitewashed spiritual theory that a celestial white male came and created everything. I disagree with your Aryan elitist types converting all these folk into brainwashed christians. I guess as much freedom we give to you christian folk isn't good enough, instead you ***** to us and prove **** to try and get us to accept christ. Well we let you believe in whatever bullshit you want to and we get to as well!