2007-08-09 14:41:59 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Matt. 26:39, RS: “Going a little farther he [Jesus Christ] fell on his face and prayed, ‘My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.’”
(If the Father and the Son were not distinct individuals, such a prayer would have been meaningless. Jesus would have been praying to himself, and his will would of necessity have been the Father’s will.)
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2007-08-09 14:45:34 · update #1
The early church fathers (before 325 AD) argued this same point. It's has never been resolved to the satisfaction of all Christianity. Notice that the word 'Trinity' never appears in the bible. Also, no one in the bible prays to Jesus; they pray to God in the name of Jesus. I believe that Jesus was a man with a completely separate will than God. Why else was he sent into the desert to be tempted? If he and God were 'one' then the temptations were totally useless. Satan wouldn't waste his time trying to tempt God. Read the four Gospels from the point of view of Jesus being a man. (The Gospel of Mark is probably the oldest Gospel. The writers of Matthew, Luke, and John adapted their books from the writer of Mark.) And, remember that the Letters and Epistles were written a long time after Jesus died. They are just other men's opinions on the first four books.
2007-08-09 15:18:20 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I do not believe so. When Jesus prayed in the Garden, He was facing a dreadful thing, which was about to happen to Him. I'm talking about his crucifixion. He came to the earth to be crucified for the sins of mankind, but He also had feelings just like me and you. And even though He was willing to go through what He came to the earth to go through, He was still wishing that there was some other way to pay the costs for our sins. The fleshly side of Jesus wanted to give up, but from the spiritual standpoint, He knew that He had to go through with what He came to the earth to do. I believe that He was simply asking the Father to give Him the strength that He needed to face what He had to face. He dreaded it just like you or me would of dreaded it. We with our human mind cannot fully understand the matter, but Jesus told us more than once in the Holy Word, that He and the Father were One. And He also told us that He came to do the will of the Father. Jesus knew what the will of his Heavenly Father was, but He also needed strength from the Heavenly Father to be able to carry out the perfect will of the Father.
2007-08-09 22:32:03 · answer #2 · answered by Calvin S 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
no, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit each work together perfectly for a single will. God bless.
Jesus Christ if both fully God and fully Man in one divine person. Jesus' human nature was afraid, but Jesus' divine nature obeyed the Father's will. God bless.
2007-08-09 21:45:43 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Jesus prayed Thy will be done...yes? He prefaced that stament of submission by nevertheless The will BE done. The will of G-d was is and will be; the sovereighnty of G-d can be both honored and revered in the picture of Jesus making the statment which pervades all generations world without end.
In His Service,ZGO
2007-08-09 21:59:01 · answer #4 · answered by ZeroGravitySongInTheNight 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Why do some think Jesus was showing a moment of weakness? He was not. Jesus was concerned that reproach was going to be brought upon his Father's name considering he was being put to death as a criminal and blasphemer, Jesus did not really want that to happen but said to his Father, let it happen as you will. Jesus and his Father are two separate beings. Father and Son, Jesus even said; I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God, showing that the Father was his God.
2007-08-09 21:50:49 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The entire purpose of the Word made flesh was to do the will of the Father. To say they had separate wills is absurd. But you have to remember Jesus was fully God and fully man, two natures in one person, the Son of God. It was a perfect example of the human nature of Jesus, being human. The flesh did not want to die.
2007-08-09 21:55:53 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
You're thinking of it in limited human terms. If the Father and the Son were human, you'd be correct. But they are infinitely more than human. They are indeed distinct Persons, yet they are of one Being, indivisible and inseparable.
2007-08-09 21:53:01 · answer #7 · answered by words for the birds 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Yes. One example is Luke 22:42 "Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done."
2007-08-09 21:46:34 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
this is only a matter of what you choose to believe ...each
christian has their own spin on the events of two thousand years ago when none of us actually were present . tell me how many straps did Jesus have on his sandals?
peace
2007-08-09 21:48:42 · answer #9 · answered by dogpatch USA 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Yes, it does. But it is evident in His life and through scripture that he gave up His will in deference to God's.
2007-08-09 21:46:24 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋