How many of you deniers out there also deny an anthropogenic effect on the Ozone layer?

Question

Just asking.

Answer 1

Imagine if no one questioned science. Where would we be today? Thinking that the sun revolved around the earth and man was created by divine provenance?

I believe the science is so weak that us who question need to be muzzled by the believers. If the science was strong, there wouldn't be this much panic by the believers.

If we didn't question, we would still be accepting Mann's fraudulent hockey stick as fact, because after all, it was peered reviewed, and Mann's errors were missed by climatologist.

Answer 2

I agree with njdevil but for the assumption that decisions about the solution of the problem must come from the degree of acceptance from the public.

Scientists and governments of the world must collaborate and do the right things, regardless of the market, the industries, the lobbies, the interests, the speculation, the shot term advantage, the secret services, the opinion and the vote of the man in the street.

There is also what I call a "system administration syndrome".
A system administrator fixes the problem before that the user notices it, so the user thinks that the system administrator does nothing and is not necessary.

Many users of this planet say: "Why do we need to fix something that works". But they ignore that most of the things work because there were many system administrators discovering, inventing, building and improving things for them.

So politicians should not hear them even at cost of losing their vote.

Answer 3

Well, if you know your physics and chemistry, you will come to the same conclusion as me! CFC`s molecules need to reach very high altitude to be decomposed into chlorine molecules by UVB and UVC rays, and since they are sooo heavy, ascending winds alone cannot explained how they could climbs at the needed altitude to be decomposed and even less how they could remain so high for the time needed for their decompositions. To give you an idea, clouds are forming at about 10000 feet to 12000 feet above sea, around tiny dust particles hoovering time to time at such altitude, but for the CFC`s to be decomposed they need to reach about 40000 feet high!!! Let me tell you that the air density at this level is sooo low, than any molecules the size of a Chlorofluorcarbon will drop back on earth like a rock!!
Also, other studies have pointed to the fact that Ozone holes are periodic and follow the activity level our our planet magnetic lines (at the poles) that increase the amount of +ions at higher atmosphere thus triggering the reduction in the layer density. At the beginning of the study, many scientists did not really understand the influences of our ionosphere on climatologic events, since those studies have been proved to be militarily sensitive... Thus the HAARP project in Alaska! It explains why the alternate scenario of the Ozone holes never reach the main stream media, so we got stuck with those anthropogenic version of the story!! Actually I guess that the GW could have similar roots, if we consider that Russia, China have similar HAARP technologies!!

Answer 4

Women with hair spray changed the climate and ozone.This cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000. -- Lowell Ponte "The Cooling", 1976

If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age. -- Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling, Earth Day (1970)

What we've got to do in energy conservation is try to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, to have approached global warming as if it is real means energy conservation, so we will be doing the right thing anyway in terms of economic policy and environmental policy. -- Timothy Wirth, former U.S. Senator (D-Colorado)

If radical environmentalists were to invent a disease to bring human populations back to sanity, it would probably be something like AIDS -- Earth First! Newsletter

Human happiness, and certainly human fecundity, is not as important as a wild and healthy planets...Some of us can only hope for the right virus to come along. -- David Graber, biologist, National Park Service

The collective needs of non-human species must take precedence over the needs and desires of humans. -- Dr. Reed F. Noss, The Wildlands Project

If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels. -- Prince Phillip, World Wildlife Fund

Cannibalism is a "radical but realistic solution to the problem of overpopulation." -- Lyall Watson, The Financial Times, 15 July 1995

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Answer 5

I do. The ozone hole was observed and explained by French scientists in 1958, long before CFCs existed.

The ozone hole panic occured when the patent for CFCs was set to expire. DuPont pushed the ozone hole scam, forcing us to use new, more expensive refrigerants. The CFC theory for ozone depletion doesn't hold water....there is much more chlorine in the upper atmosphere from seawater than there is from CFCs, which are heavy and tend to remain near the ground.

Answer 6

Well I remember that they were blaming it on freon at one time..I'm a retired air conditioning mechanic and the government made us take classes and we had to be certified to work..what's up with the ozone layer now

Answer 7

thats the funny thing.....the hole in the ozone layer was PROVEN so no one could deny it....global warming is not yet PROVEN but mark my words it will be in the future, then and only then will we see more people accept it....we are in that ransition stage where people dont want to admit themselves to be wrong but there are more things going on and more people are beginning to realize....

it was the same with the ozone layer....finally good science came out on it and people believed it...also people saw it was havign effects world wide and knew that action had to be taken....

the public will accept it in one of two ways....more events happen naturally that support the theory or mroe science comes out to support it....i just hope it doesnt have to be another katrina event

Answer 8

Personally I haven’t read up on the subject, as I have with global warming, so I’m ambivalent on the issue.

Answer 9

The fact that you choose to use the word deniers instead of skeptics indicates that you are not interested in scientific discussion, but are instead spreading some type of gospel.

Answer 10

Yeah it was just another way for the rich liberals to sell us more use less crap that we didn't need. And of course the same thing is happening with Global Warming and all crap they are trying to make us buy :(...........................