catholics!!!!!!!!!! do you really believe the pope is devine or is he just some old man?

Question

tolerated because of his status and do you believe he is correct in not letting the ministry get married

have any of you read 1st timothy "a bishop ... must be the husband of one wife" this PAUL writting to timothy

please excuse me not divine but ifallible and did you know that the apostle paul rebuked peter what do you think would happen if someone rebuked todays pope

Answer 1

Catholics actually believe that God is bound to the decisions of the Pope. If the Pope says something, they believe God must obey! What a joke!

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In Catholic theology, papal infallibility is the dogma that, by action of the Holy Spirit, the Pope is preserved from even the possibility of error[1] when he solemnly declares or promulgates to the Church a dogmatic teaching on faith or morals as being contained in divine revelation, or at least being intimately connected to divine revelation. For all such infallible teachings, the Holy Spirit also works through the body of the Church to ensure that the teaching will be received by all Catholics.

Answer 2

No One said that the Pope is divine....and is only not infallible on ALL issues. Ministry may marry at a future time...time will tell. The apostles were married...at least some of them.

So many of these responses show just how little people know and understand about the Catholic Faith. We do not believe that the Pope dictates law to God.

I think the idea of celibacy has remained for the same reasons that women have not been made priests. The laity IS NOT ready to accept this yet. When some of the nuns obtained the title of pastoral associate, the laity was in an uproar thinking it was an associate pastor position. Time will tell.... patience is a virtue... one worth pursuing.

Answer 3

+ The Pope +

Catholics believe that the Pope is no more divine than any other Christian. But like Simon Peter, the first Pope, he was chosen for his role by God.

+ Celibate Clergy +

Priests, religious brothers and religious sisters (nuns) as part of their vocation choose not to marry following:
+ The practice recommended in the Bible
+ The example of Jesus Christ, John the Baptist, and the Apostle Paul.

+++ Scripture +++

In Matthew 19:12, Jesus says, "Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others; some, because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it."

In Matthew 19:29, Jesus says, "And everyone who has given up houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands for the sake of my name will receive a hundred times more, and will inherit eternal life."

Matthew 22:30 - Jesus explains, "At the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage but are like the angels in heaven."

In 1 Corinthians 7:1, Paul writes, "It is a good thing for a man not to touch a woman."

Then in 1 Corinthians 7:7, Paul says, "Indeed, I wish everyone to be as I am."

In 1 Corinthians 7:27, Paul writes, "Are you free of a wife? Then do not look for a wife."

In 1 Corinthians 7:32-33, Paul teaches, "I should like you to be free of anxieties. An unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord. But a married man is anxious about the things of the world, how he may please his wife." And in verse 38, "So then, the one who marries his virgin does well; the one who does not marry her will do better."

Paul recommends celibacy for full time ministers in the Church so that they are able to focus entirely upon God and building up His kingdom. He “who refrains from marriage will do better.”

See also 1 Timothy 5:9-12, 2 Timothy 2:3-4, Revevation 14:4, Isaiah 56:3-7, and Jeremiah 16:1-4.

+++ Scriptural Examples +++

Biblical role models of a celibate clergy came from John the Baptist, Jesus, and the Apostle Paul.

John the Baptist and Jesus are both believed to have been celibate for their entire lives. Some scholars believe that the example of the Essenes influenced either or both Jesus and John the Baptist in their celibacy.

WWJD? What would Jesus do? Jesus did not marry.

The Apostle Paul is explicit about his celibacy (see 1 Cor. 7). There is also evidence in the gospel of Matthew for the practice of celibacy among at least some early Christians, in the famous passage about becoming “eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven” (Matt. 19:12).

The concept took many twists and turns over the years and will probably take a few more before Christ returns in glory.

A priest is "married" to the Church. Some people think that a priest who takes his duties seriously cannot take proper care of a wife and family. "A man cannot serve two masters."

+ With love in Christ.

Answer 4

He is not divine. The Catholic Church has never taught that any Pope was divine. The Pope is considered the "Supreme Pontiff" or the ultimate teacher of the faith. He occupies the office of Saint Peter, the Apostle. It is the office of the pope that is sacred, not the occupier.

Celibacy in the Priesthood is endorsed by Paul in his writings, as well as by Christ Himself, who was chaste and unmarried during his life on Earth.

Celibacy is a discipline, not a doctrine nor a requirement of salvation.

Peace be with you.

Answer 5

The Pope is not divine. He is the head of the Catholic Church, in succession to St. Peter who was the first Pope. He works under divine inspiration by God the Holy Spirit. And no, he's not just some old man, as you put it. Best not to underestimate people.

Answer 6

Ummmm...Catholics don't believe the Pope is divine. We believe he's a man chosen to hold an important position, and that God gives him divine inspiration when needed, but he's just a guy. He goes to confession, just like the rest of us, because he's not perfect. He's special because he spends his entire day in prayer, study and ministry, and he holds a position of leadership, but that doesn't make him divine.

Do I think he's correct in maintaining the rule for celibacy? Frankly, in this day and age, I do. I used to be Protestant, and I worked for a Protestant church that had seven married pastors, a female children's minister, a part-time music coordinator, and a business manager for about 1,200 members. Between them, those seven pastors could not attend to the spiritual needs of the congregation AND give their families all the support and help they needed. Being a pastor is a 24/7 job and every single one of them found themselves at times missing a birthday, a kid's school or sporting event, an anniversary, etc., because ministry took precedence. Plus, I thought it was very, very difficult for the wives and children to be the pastor's family, because they were held to a higher standard by the congregation.

Furthermore, everybody expected that huge staff to take care of everything, so it was like pulling teeth to get anybody in the congregation to help out when needed.

So, as long as people in our culture are unfairly judgmental over religious people and expect them to be perfect and do all the work, I think there is some wisdom in asking men to voluntarily take a vow of celibacy if they feel called to serve the Church as priests/pastors. Then they can be totally devoted to serving God and His Church, and they won't be divided between the demands of home and the demands of the ministry. As a Catholic, I see people wanting to help our priests out a lot more because they know he's in it alone. It works a lot better, IMHO, and I've been on both sides of it.

I hope that someday people will really GET Christianity and understand that it means giving, not taking. And then the celibacy rule can be reversed. But until the time is right, my opinion is that this way works better for now.

I have talked with a number of priests (and religious sisters) about this, and all of the acknowledge that it is a sacrifice to take this vow. Most if not all of them planned on marrying and having children, and it wasn't easy for them to give up on that. They could only do it with much prayer and a ton of Grace from God. But people value what costs them dearly -- the person who pays $200,000 for his house values it more than the person who pays $20 for a tent, and the person who spends years and years in school, paying lots of money, values her education more than the person who went to a free training session. So it is with the priesthood. When it costs a lot, the men who are heading into it count that cost carefully and discern carefully before going ahead with it. It's not just a job for them, it's their LIVES.

Answer 7

It has been a discipline in the Catholic church for the better part of a thousand years to have a celibate clergy. There have been numerous questions asked about this (one just yesterday), so I'll let you search for and browse through the answers.

And we don't believe the Pope is divine. He is a highly educated, holy man who is our global pastor, but he is NOT divine.

Answer 8

The Catholic Church does NOT teach that the pope is divine, and no Catholic believes he is.

The Catholic Church has married priests -- men who married before ordination. Priests can't marry after ordination for the same reason doctors can't date or have sex with their patients -- it is unethical and incestuous to be romantically involved with someone under one's care. Please read this article, as the issues of transference, inability to give meaningful consent because of unequal power, etc. are equally applicable:
http://fampra.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/18/5/511

Answer 9

I personally do not know what is a devine but to me he is neither! To me, he is the successor of Peter and the vicar of Christ on earth!!!