Why do anti-choicers lie to get their point across?

Question

"Pro-lifers" anthropomorphize a blob of cells with no brain or consciousness, no ability to suffer or even be aware of what is happening to it when a pregnancy is aborted, into something that actually has an internal monologue, saying things like "I don't like that doctor" and generally frets about being aborted. They have a habit of attributing qualities to blastocysts, embryos, and fetuses that even newborns and toddlers don't have!

That is ludicrous (also, it's only called a fetus from the third month onward, and the VAST majority of abortions are done WAY before then). "Pro-lifers" (who always seem to be in favor of the death penalty, interestingly enough) make the molehill of an unfeeling, non-sentient blob of cells less than an inch long (1 inch at the two-month mark) into the mountain of a child, physically indistinguishable from a newborn, who not only can magically feel pain, but is somehow imbued with MORE self-awareness and sentience than a newborn.

It's shocking, and hilarious how little understanding these idiots have.

Following is the type of crap anti-choice jackoffs make up to try and demonize abortions, with my commentary added (this is a 'meme' that I've seen "pro-lifers" spread around a lot and actually use as an argument. It has not been cut in any way):

"Month 1
Mommy, I am only 8 inches long, but I have all my organs. I love the sound of your voice. Every time I hear it, I wave my arms and legs. The sound of your heart beat is my favorite lullaby."

LOL, right out of the gate, we are swamped in BS. A four-week old embryo is at MOST one FIFTH of ONE inch long. It has almost NO internal organs: no ears to hear a voice or another's heartbeat, nor arms nor legs to wave. The only thing it's got is its heart, which only begins to beat on day 25.

"Month 2
Mommy, today I learned how to suck my thumb. If you could see me, you could definitely tell that I am a baby. I'm not big enough to survive outside my home though. It is so nice and warm in here."

Sorry embryo, the pro-lifers are still telling dirty lies (the irony of me pretending to directly address an embryo is intentional satire, people :P). You have no real thumb to suck yet (hell, no real developed mouth to put it in either). And even if you did, thumbsucking is only shown to start happening around month 5, three months later. And if you were to see an embryo at this point, without magnification, you would think you were looking not at a baby, but at a fleshy bean, because that is the shape the embryo is, and it's also only about an inch long at eight weeks.

ATTENTION: TAKE NOTE THAT IT IS BY THIS POINT THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF ABORTIONS HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED. ABORTIONS THAT HAPPEN AFTER THIS POINT HAPPEN MORE BECAUSE OF A HEALTH RISK TO THE PREGNANT WOMAN THAN FOR ANY OTHER REASON. THEREFORE, THE VERY FEW VALID POINTS INTERSPERSED BEYOND THIS POINT MATTER VERY LITTLE OVERALL.

"Month 3
You know what Mommy, I'm a girl!! I hope that makes you happy. I always want you to be happy. I don't like it when you cry. You sound so sad. It makes me sad too, and I cry with you even though you can't hear me."

Okay, I'll let them get away with this because it's at week twelve (the last week of month 3; you barely made it) when sex becomes distinguishable. So hooray, the pro-lifer makes their first true statement! Unfortunately, it's followed by a very false one--it's not possible for a fetus to cry, not before it's got air in its lungs! Sheesh.

"Month 4
Mommy, my hair is starting to grow. It is very short and fine, but I will have a lot of it. I spend a lot of my time exercising. I can turn my head and curl my fingers and toes, and stretch my arms and legs. I am becoming quite good at it too."

Again we've got a 'half-truth' in here. The development of the lanugo (the hair that's being referred to) does happen here, but it's temporary. It's gone before birth (and for reference, this fine hair covers much of the body--we're not talking about 'head hair' here, which some newborns have and others don't). The fetus is capable of basic movement by this time, so the last sentence is alright, I guess.

"Month 5
You went to the doctor today. Mommy, he lied to you. He said that I'm not a baby. I am a baby Mommy, your baby. I think and feel. Mommy, what's abortion?"

This is some of the most obvious anthropomorphization yet. Guys, children don't have anything resembling sense of self/identity until several YEARS AFTER BIRTH! Much less a fetus having the capability to literally DISAGREE with something. Of course, that is also not mentioning the fact that a fetus doesn't understand English--again, jackoff pro-lifers are attributing qualities to EMBRYOS and FETUSES that even newborns don't have!

"Month 6
I can hear that doctor again. I don't like him. He seems cold and heartless. Something is intruding my home. The doctor called it a needle. Mommy what is it? It burns! Please make him stop! I can't get away from it! Mommy!! HELP me!!"

Let's start at the beginning. A fetus doesn't even know what a 'person' is, much less have the ability to 'dislike' a specific person (or, for that matter, know his/her GENDER, much less PROFESSION). Again, not even newborns are capable of this. The fetus here is shown asking about things in the same way that one would only expect a child of 3 or 4 YEARS to be able to. Shrieks of pain and cries for help are attributed even though the actual process of abortion at this point (again, I can't reiterate enough that it is EXTREMELY rare in the third trimester (let alone the second), and done most often because the pregnant woman's health is at risk) is still nothing like the kind of prolonged agony a pro-lifer would like to have you believe it is.

"Month 7
Mommy, I am okay. I am in Jesus's arms. he is holding me. He told me about abortion. Why didn't you want me, Mommy?"

Again, no sense of self in a fetus--it doesn't even know what a 'mommy' is, much less who it should refer to that way (or even how to tell the difference between people). The "why didn't you want me" at the end is a fallacious appeal to emotion, which dodges the reality of the situation--even if you don't abort an unwanted pregnancy, it's STILL an unwanted pregnancy! Going through the whole pregnancy, and having the kid grow up to TRULY (with the level of understanding these idiot anti-choicers would like to have you believe a freaking EMBRYO or FETUS has) feel unwanted, and know that their whole life was a 'mistake'...is that REALLY better than stopping an unwanted pregnancy as soon as possible? Think about it without a religious crutch or fantasies of embryonic sentience, and you'll know the answer.

P.S. The majority of pregnancies are miscarried before the mother or (obviously) the embryo is ever aware of what's happened.

More information:

http://www.demnos.com/blogs/stories/2007/03/baby-thoughts.htm (a blog entry containing the source for the dishonest abortion 'account' I ripped apart--apparently its initial form was that of an e-mail chain letter)
http://www.womenshealthmatters.ca/centres/pregnancy/pregnancy/second.html
http://www.stronghealth.com/services/womenshealth/maternity/trimesters.cfm (this and the source above are where I got the REAL information about what goes on during pregnancy, and what the embryo/fetus is and is not at a given point in time)
http://blog.youngpeoplefor.org/story/2007/2/1/15922/35939 (someone else exposing the flaws in the same account)
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=107651 (a source showing just how many pregnancies 'abort' themselves, with no outside intervention--less than two-thirds of pregnancies make it to birth)

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It's interesting how no one is addressing the question! The above is an exposition of anti-choicers LYING about embryonic/fetal development! Just plain LYING in order to make abortion sound worse than it is. I notice none of you anti-choicers have any objection to the LIES I exposed. That's very telling, you know. The ends justify the means for you guys, huh? How disgusting...when the facts don't support you, just lie, right? You lot sicken me.

Answer 1

Because they are blinded by ignorance.

First) Most abortions are related to the woman's age. Accordingly to researchers, the number of teenage abortions has increased. Each year, one million American teenagers become pregnant, and 85% of these pregnancies are unintended. About 35% of pregnant teenagers choose to have an abortion rather than raise a child.

Second) The concept of when life begins is essentially religious. If one accepts that life begins at the instant of conception, it means that a soul enters into the fertilized egg at this moment, and when an abortion is performed, a life is ended. Now we must consider who has the right to end the life of another human being.

Third) The baby MEDICALLY becomes alive at around 25-26 weeks, when it can survive without the mother...

Fourth) What about anencephalic baby? (Born without a Brain, but still has a brain stem.) --Imagine you have wanted a baby for ALL of your adulthood, and have tried for YEARS without success, FINALLY, you get pregnant. You find out the baby is anencephalic, would you rather have the baby, only to watch it die minutes to hours after birth, or have an abortion and try again? The baby cannot feel pain, cannot see, can barely breathe (And sometimes can't) by itself- It has nothing about it. You can literally hold it up to a light and see the light on the other side, through the baby's pink little head... Seriously, you are going to deny a woman her right not to feel as much pain?

Fifth) Freedom is a right- Freedom is having the choice to make decisions and actions that change you and those around you. You take away a persons freedom when you take away the right to their body.

Don't think I'm Pro-Abortion -- I'm Pro-Choice. Abortion should usually only be used when needed, and it's not very good if it's used as birth control, but still, it isn't your life to run, and it's not your choice to make.

Answer 2

It relies upon on what you mean via mendacity. they're generally blind to the actuality approximately abortion, yet no longer mendacity approximately it. case in point, many professional-decision human beings do no longer understand that the coronary heart first beats basically 4 weeks after concept, generally in the previous the lady even knows she's pregnant. Many are unaware that the toddler is a seperate man or woman with its own blood form and unique genetic code. of direction, i need to be incorrect. rather, it incredibly is a actuality that a million/2 of pregnant women folk temporarily develop a penis.

Answer 3

Are you saying, New borns and toddlers, have no sences?
If so. You have never had the joyous pleasure of being care
taker to an infant and onward.
I have experienced several miscarriages, at various stages of
growth, The form so very tiny to view is visible m/f.

When you plant a seed in a vegetable garden, what are the expectations?---
Rowe vs Wade/abortion, led to so called, "Planned Parent
Hood" Privatitized Corp. paid for by tax payers.
Putting aside this very emontional issue, of who lies, who is right or wrong. I do not believe in abortion, that is my right,.
Being a tax payer, makes me apart of what I donot believe in.
Soooo, I donot want my tax $$$ to pay for abortion.

I do believe, Want I consider against God's will. (sin/error)
call it what you will. Is between God and the individual. God is the final judge, not me or you, who ever you may be.
With that said, I have been in wonder, what would calm this issue? What if, P.P.H. was done away with, Tax $$$done away with. Let abortion be between, private doctor/patient, and God be the judge.
"Ludicrous" It is ludicrous to believe you can read "Believer's"
minds, It is ludicrous to think one has all the answers, It is
ludicrous, to not keep a open mind,to seek all facets of any
serious issue, to not learn how to agree to disagree.to fight fair.ludicrous to compare death penalty with abortion------
(cause/effect) It is ludicrous to not ask one's self--------
What was the motive behind politicans legalizing abortion???

Answer 4

If you really do not believe that at the moment of conception a new life has begun simply because it is just beginning to form and does not resemble what we recognize as a "man", then I would ask you to consider the fact that just a few years ago you too were just forming, not as a fetus in womb, but as an individual searching out his relationship to the rest of this world based on your feelings and thoughts of the world around you. I am not on either side of the abortion debate, rathjer I choose to see me life beginning when I have no recall of the event, and is a journey of discovery, constantly recognizing the folly of my earlier opinions. Neither of the self professed "geniouses" airing their beliefs have as yet to admit to their ignorance of the matters as life, when does it begin, and does it matter what any of these organizations say, but would it not matter more what you, you as someone trying to be a free thinking man, can see in his own vision from within? Stop mimicking the idiots; anyone can do that. But now I put it to you to search this out, in your own journey of enlightenment.

Answer 5

WOW you worked so hard on all of this, but i don't feel like reading the whole thing.

i am pro abortion, why should some one bring another pointless life into this harsh world to suffer!?


edit; ha ha, that was funny, Do they actually believe that?
That just shows everyone how stupid the world really is.

Answer 6

I agree. I don't care about the opinion of anyone without a uterus because it just doesn't affect them the same way. Also, in this country we are supposed to have freedom of religion. If your religion says no abortion, then don't get one. But don't impose your religion on others. Any religious argument against abortions is invalid.

Answer 7

Wow. You really put alot of time into writing this very long post. It obviously means alot to you and you feel very passionate about this issue.
I am very much pro-life. I do not base it on anything scientific. In my opinion it is murder. A person does not develop a soul at the moment the first breath is taken.
Also, yes I am very pro death penalty because a baby (scientifically it is called a fetus, yes but this in my opinion the term fetus makes it 'seem' as if it is not a person) is innocent. Someone who receives the death penalty more than likely did something to derserve it.

Answer 8

When do you believe a fetus becomes a life? What do you think about a man that kills a woman and her unborn child and is convicted of two counts of murder?
I understand how strong you must feel if you really dont believe the fetus is a life. But for those who do believe it is a life, how could they not stand up and fight against abortion. To do anything less would be inhumane.

Answer 9

lol

I don't think its really relevant to be 'pro-choice after you have been born' because if you had been aborted, you wouldn't know or care anyway. It is beside the point.

I know how you feel man. I beat my brains out thinking this stuff whenever I'm faced with idiot statements such as 'it is a life, a baby, it feels the pain, how do you know it doesn't hurt when that mother aborts it!'.

and of course, the person below me, an abortion should be a discussed decision between the mother and the father, if the father is around of course. But outside of that...no.

Answer 10

i wonder why these people are not willing to take in every child that they save! instead they let the child be born and have a possible life of neglect and abuse! while the child is living a life with parents that didnt want them,(possibly in misery) the saviors forget the child they saved and go on with their daily lifes.