why do religious people say that science and education cant answer human problems about spirituality?

Question

Let me explain the spiritual aspects of evolution

since we have evolved from apes and will die and become dust , now that should give us all a deep sense of spiritual comfort so that to realise that we belong to each other and need to care and love eachother

science has developed and it has been a great help to humans. for example medical science has invented drugs that could cure people and increased the nature of paliative care for dying people

while this tiny space is not enough to make my point clear all what i can say is if you look deep into science and education its actually a wonderful spiritual movement , if embraced with honesty, joy and compassion can explain the unknown and can be used as an alternative to religion which proves no logic

what are your comments/

ex muslim / free thinker

Answer 1

i say the same thing and i am not religious.

the reason i say that is because of the tunnel vision, greed the use of exclusion in education and science.

Answer 2

So you want to make science a religion? But Science does not claim to have any part of religion or spirituality.... it can't do anything with it. Loving and Caring are human (and animal) attributes... this doesn't make a person Spiritual. A person can not believe in anything Spiritual at all and still show love and compassion for others. (Love, in the scientific sense, is a chemical reaction in the brain.............)

Science, in the way you are putting it here, didn't invent all the drugs we have.... that's coming close to saying that no one knew anything about healing others before scientists started studying our world... Actually, it was through shamans, mid-wives, etc that they even got this type of information to begin with. Most today would call those people "witches" for even knowing about herbalism (which is where you get the medicine from to begin with)... and was considered part of their "religions" as the people of that time thought the Gods/Goddess' gave certain herbs specifically for healing. So this did not start in Science... it just ended up there.... Come to think of it, science really hasn't given us too much in the way of medicine, especially with their synthetic crap that causes more bad side effects than actually helps the disease. If you've noticed, most of the medicine given out by pharmaceutical companies does not CURE... it only helps tame the symptoms in order for the persons own body to deal with it.

Now, I'm not saying that science does not help... but it didn't give us life and it didn't gives us everything you are trying to say it did. These things started long before societies had scientific methods to test these things.

You are also insinuating that if one is religious, then they do not have any sort of education and can't use logic.... I find this hard to believe considering that almost 90% of America believes in some for of deity (or deities) or the supernatural... though I wouldn't dare say we are perfect, I wouldn't go so far as to say that 90% of America can't use logic.

You wanted us to embrace with honesty. You got it.

Answer 3

Science and education are great, we can't do without them and my family goes to the doctor, the dentist, and uses prescriptions. Where those institutions fall down is they do not know about the soul, which is your awareness itself, your identity as a person, how you feel towards other human beings. With just science and religion, what I see is a very limited view of our potential as beings, as souls. Without soul knowledge, individuals tend to remain just that, isolated individuals who believe they are separate from each other and then we have all the things that come from that: selfishness, wars, competitiveness, cruelty, apathy, hopelessness. Science does not know about the soul's potential because it doesn't recognize it as a reality. Nor does science know about other levels of reality besides the material plane. Nor does it know that the material plane is like a school for the soul, where the soul gets gross feedback for how it is doing. Material science is not aware of the subtle aspects of the soul, how the soul can feel much more than the five senses when it isn't programmed to define itself in limited ways. Science does not know that there is a fabric of consciousness of which all of our individual souls are connected on and can communicate on. Mystic religions know about this, experience this. In Hinduism the individual soul and it's consciousness is called the Atman and is much larger than the physical body. The OverSoul or God's Soul which encompasses all souls and all consciousness is called Brahman.

Now, I realize that scientifically and logically, this makes no sense, but if you experience it, it has to be accepted. And thousands of mystics thruout history have verified that this is in fact a reality. Material plane science only measures physical events and materials.

Answer 4

Science has, indeed, helped humans in the ways you've mentioned. Interestingly, it's given humanity a new set of problems, while solving the first.

Human beings are great engineers and problem solvers. But like generals planning for the next war by studying the last one, they're always solving the last problem, almost never anticipating the problems created by the solutions.

Answer 5

Some great minds think you are wrong:

There are umerous societies for promoting dialogue between science and theology, like the European Society for the Study of Science and Theology, the Science and Religion Forum, the Berkeley Center for Theology and Natural Science, and so forth have sprung up. Especially significant have been the on-going conferences sponsored by the Berkeley Center and the Vatican Observatory, in which prominent scientists like Stephen Hawking and Paul Davies have explored the implications of science for theology with prominent theologians like John Polkinghorne and Wolfhart Pannenberg. Not only are there professional journals devoted to the dialogue between science and religion, such as Zygon and Perspectives on Science and Christian Faith, but, more significantly, secular journals like Nature and the British Journal for the Philosophy of Science, also carry articles on the mutual implications of science and theology. The Templeton Foundation has awarded its million dollar Templeton Award in Science and Religion to outstanding integrative thinkers such as Paul Davies, John Polkinghorne, and George Ellis for their work in science and religion. The dialogue between science and theology has become so significant in our day that both Cambridge University and Oxford University have established chairs in science and theology.

People who think that science and religion are mutually irrelevant need to realize that the cat is already out of the bag; and there’s little prospect of stuffing it back in. Science and religion have discovered that they have important mutual interests and important contributions to make to each other, and those who don’t like this can choose not to participate in the dialogue, but that’s not going to shut down the dialogue or show it to be meaningless.

Answer 6

They're right.... It can't, and it shouldn't.

The evidence lies in the simple fact that you just made up that string of rhetorical nonsense on the spot. It might be fine for you, but it is still effectively a flight of fancy.

Science is the quantification and qualification of physical, mundane existence. It has nothing to do with spirituality whatsoever. Anything spiritual you choose to ascribe to it is your own doing alone and nothing to do with what science actually is.

Answer 7

Yes but the problem is we can always ask questions beyond what we know at this point. There are some people that just can't live with the answer " we don't know yet" so they create myths to explain things science hasn't discovered yet.

Answer 8

Yes, I have also noticed some people doing some tricks in Yahoo. There were 3 questions asked before one week. The asker's name and photo was yours . Same name and same face. I was surprised because the questions were in provoking nature. Fortunately, those were deleted after sometime. Beware of such people. Thank you.

Answer 9

science and education can obviously contribute to our world and give us comfort....but the material world and the spiritual one are different realms.....

it is true that if someone is happy and healty, their mental outlook will be better,, but they will not necessarily be more spiritual.....it is really a matter of definition......

you may define mental satisfaction as spiritual......but this is not traditionally the definition.......which includes a relationship with God or a higher power.....

if you link the mental satisfaction with gratitude to God for the benefits you enjoy, you can possibly start to make that spiritual connection.

Answer 10

Because most of the times science shows that they are just being superstitious and they don't like that.

Answer 11

When you have a relationship with Christ, you look to Him for all your answers--and why not--He created you with a wonderful plan for your life and any accomplishments that we've made are because of the gifts that he's instilled in us.