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i dont believe that people of today need religion or god . what we modern people need is education, knowledge, ethics, morals , human rights , democracy, freedom and the right to live our lives without fear

what are your comments?

ex muslim / free thinker

2007-08-09 00:39:16 · 31 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

31 answers

To explain the unexplainable. Science has left a huge gap that it cannot explain.

Proud to be Muslim and the rest in relation to Christianity: Islam/Christianity and democracy: The ancient Athenians and Romans were neither Christian nor Muslim - neither religion caused democracy. Since both religions (as well as Judaism) are closely related, what you might consider is that the moral teachings of these religions are the fabric that allows a democracy to work. For a republic to function, the people must have moral values and these come from religion. Even Rousseau wrote of that.

2007-08-09 00:42:34 · answer #1 · answered by Caninelegion 7 · 1 1

I find it humorous that you say what we modern people need....

Education, knowledge, ethics, morals, human rights, democracy, freedom.... All, each and every one a direct result of Christianity. The roots of each are found ONLY in the freedom by God. Man the truth hurts sometimes doesn’t it? Let me tell you a little story if you will take the time to read.

A group of the most educated scientist got together and decided we have reached a level of evolution were we do not need God. We can do it all without him, so they elected one to go and tell god, The selected scientist went up to god and said, god, man don't need you anymore, so you can just go on to where ever outdated gods go, we can take care of ourselves. And God said, you can, really? And the scientist said sure, We have learned how to explore the universe, we can go to the bottom of the sea, we can take organs out of one and put back into another, we can do it all. And God said, ok, that’s fine, but I want you to show me, how about a little friendly game to see if you can make it on your own? The scientist said ok, sounds good, what do you have in mind? And God said, lets see who can make a better man, you or me, just like I did it back in the old days. Well the scientist being knowledgeable in DNA, Biology, evolution and all, said ok, I accept your challenge, you can go first, god. So God retched down pick up a hand full of dust and said, "be" and the dust formed into the shell of a man, then God said "live" and the breath went out of God into the shell and the man was. Then God said ok it’s your turn. The scientist put on his white smock, and got all ready and started to reach down into the dust, when God said, Stop!!! The scientist said, why what’s wrong? God said, that's my dust, get your own.

Get the point? You life is in the very hands of who you deny, if you think that man can make the world a better place, you are in for some big disappointments.

2007-08-09 01:11:46 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The purpose and need of these beliefs is up to the individual. There isn't just one answer to this. And again, you suggest that because someone believes in a God that they aren't educated. Everything you have listed is what most people are fighting for anyway... though some will argue that they want it Their way and leave others out... that is still actually a very small group that acts that way.

This seems to be a common problem. Even people in other countries look at a small percentage of Americans and think we're all that way. So you look at a small percentage of religious people who are Nuts and think everyone who has a belief is that way.

But I have to ask... how would you change anyone's mind about their personal beliefs? Would you go so far as to brainwash them so that you can feel they are educated in the way you want them to be?

2007-08-09 01:45:29 · answer #3 · answered by River 5 · 0 0

Perhaps you can tell us then why we were put on this planet and what we are expected to do here?

Without God, all of the concepts you mention, "education, knowledge, ethics, morals , human rights , democracy, freedom and the right to live our lives without fear" are without real meaning; really just things that make you feel good when you say them.

2007-08-09 00:48:04 · answer #4 · answered by Matthew T 7 · 2 0

Many people are simply not given the opportunity to learn other ways than religion. That means that when they are released into the big world they will get a shock by experiencing how many that aren't belonging to their religion. Some become very protective of their ways and will try to convert anyone around them. They really dont know why, but also they don't give non-religion any consideration until many years after the first contact with society.

Ignorance is what religion lives and thrives upon.

2007-08-09 00:45:24 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

At what standard do you think people will follow when it comes to ethics, morals,human rights,education and knowledge? Shall we throw out all the man made books and theology as well? Why not? Who standards are perfect enough for one to follow?
It is everyones idea of free thinking that got us into this mess.
Free thinking ...jeeesh!
Hey ...I think I'll go rob a bank and be happy! Your to simple minded and need an education yourself if you believe this.

2007-08-09 00:49:40 · answer #6 · answered by Stormchaser 5 · 1 0

Education, knowledge, ethics, morals, human rights, democracy and freedom...brought you by these sponsers....Jesus Christ and the Word of God. Thank you for your support. ~J~

P.S. Prior to that it was pretty much chaos, ignorance, violence, power mongering and bondage by pagan monarchies and superstitions...you know, sacrificing virgins and babies to fire gods and stuff. If you want to see what the world would look like without religion then take yourself on a little tour of North Korea or Indonesia where they sell 4 year olds for sex on the street.

2007-08-09 00:48:22 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Religion is not the opposite of education, knowledge, ethics, morals , human rights , democracy, freedom and the right to live our lives without fear

Education and knowledge:

Prophet Muhammad saws said: "To acquire knowledge is the duty of every Muslim man and woman."

Prophet Muhammad saws said: "One hour's study of the creation of God is worth more than ten years of ignorant prayers"

Human rights:
Rights Of Citizens In An Islamic State:

The Security Of Life And Property

The Protection Of Honour

The Sanctity And Security Of Private Life

The Security Of Personal Freedom

The Right to Protest Against Tyranny

Freedom Of Expression

Freedom Of Association

Freedom Of Conscience and Conviction

Protection Of Religious Sentiments

Protection From Arbitrary Imprisonment

The Right To The Basic Necessities Of Life

Equality Before The Law

Rulers Are Not Above The Law

The Right To Avoid Sin

The Right to Participate in the Affairs of State

Basic Human Rights

· The Right to Life

The Right to the Safety of Life

Respect for the Chastity of Women

The Right to a Basic Standard of Life

The Individual's Right to Freedom

The Slave Trade of Western Nations

The Position Of Slavery In Islam

The Right To Justice

The Equality Of Human Beings

The Right to Co-operate and not to Co-operate

Rights Of Enemies In War:

Law Of War And Peace In Islam

The Rights Of Non-Combatants

The Rights Of Combatants

Torture By Fire

Protection of the Wounded

Prisoners of War Should Not Be Killed

No Looting And Destruction In The Economy's Country

Sanctity Of Property

Sanctity Of A Dead Body

Return Of Corpses Of The Enemy

Prohibition Of Breach Of Treaties

Rules About Declaration Of War

To the best of my knowledge, the West had no concept of human and civic rights before the seventeenth century; and it was not until the end of the eighteenth century that the concept took on practical meaning in the constitutions of America and France.

Democracy:
democracy begins in Islam. Every individual in an Islamic society enjoys the rights and powers of the caliphate of Allah and in this respect all individuals are equal. No-one may deprive anyone else of his rights and powers. The agency for running the affairs of the state will be formed by agreement with these individuals, and the authority of the state will only be an extension of the powers of the individuals delegated to it. Their opinion will be decisive in the formation of the government, which will be run with their advice and in accordance with their wishes.

What distinguishes Islamic democracy from Western democracy, therefor, is that the latter is based on the concept of popular sovereignty, while the former rests on the principle of popular Khilafa. In Western democracy, the people are sovereign; in Islam sovereignty is vested in Allah and the people are His caliphs or representatives. In the former the people make their own; in the latter they have to follow and obey the laws (shari’a) given by Allah through His Prophet. In one the government undertakes to fulfil the will of the people; in the other the government and the people have to fulfil the will of Allah.

2007-08-09 01:42:28 · answer #8 · answered by Nourhan 5 · 0 0

Religion, for the sake of religion is worthless, and serves no purpose. I agree with your thoughts on "what we modern people need", but the ethics and morals have to have some origin. For most people, it began with their religious upbringing. I was taught tenets as a child. As an adult, it is my responsibility to discern what is right for me.

And yes, I am a Christian, albeit a poor example of one.

2007-08-09 00:48:15 · answer #9 · answered by soccoach 2 · 1 0

Regligion was set up for a small number of people to profit and to have followers that would give them popularity. from there it has spread and developed in to what we know today. there were some people who used their positions to get people to behave - by using the 10 comandments for example to give people guidlines to follow to make the world a nicer place..... but when you have different groups with similar beliefs - it causes friction instead of unitity.

so if you could have a group that says that we should live our lives by education, knowledge, ethics, morals , human rights , democracy, freedom but with out the threat of heaven or hell loaming over them.... it would be a better place

2007-08-09 00:49:14 · answer #10 · answered by Rocky W 1 · 0 2

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