Francis Bacon, The Famous Philosopher said?

Question

"that a little knowlege of science makes you an Atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes you a believer in GOD"
"Scientists today are Eliminating models of god, bit they are not eliminating GOD."
What are your views.

http://www.zaadz.com/quotes/Francis_Bacon?page=9

As atheism is in all respects hateful, so in this, that it depriveth human nature of the means to exalt itself above human frailty.
- Francis Bacon
Atheism is rather in the life than in the heart of man.
- Francis Bacon
http://www.giga-usa.com/quotes/topics/atheism_t001.htm

Bacon died in 1626 and the word Atheist in English was in use in 1571. It is also derived from an ancient Greek word. Since Bacon was a Philosopher I am sure he was well read and his vocabulary was advaced for that day and age.

the word science dates back to the 14th century so says most noted dictionaries like websters.

Answer 1

Bacon knew what he was talking about. The man is a founder of modern science and philosophy. He was head of many organizations and wrote a lot of books on the New Atlantis. I like to read Francis Bacon's material.

Answer 2

source?

i doubt very much whether he said either of those things verbatim, if he said them at all. the words atheist and scientist were not even coined when bacon was alive.

edit: neither of your quotes are on the pages given. perhaps you are right about the word atheist. i would not be so sure that it meant what we understand it to mean today. on the other hand the word 'scientist' was coined by whewell in 1833:

http://www.victorianweb.org/science/whewell.html

i believe your quotes are at best heavily paraphrased.

some SOURCED quotes by bacon:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Francis_Bacon

Answer 3

He was talking about philosophy; not science.

Furthermore, he was only claiming that from an existing christian standpoint. Those not already on such a standpoint come to a completely different conclusion.

Afterall.... a little philosophising made me an athiest..... but a great deal of in-depth philosophising made me a Nihilist..... and you can't get much further from the ridiculous fantasies of gods and avatars than that.

Answer 4

Bacon! This makes me hungry.

Answer 5

We agree with Bacon.

Answer 6

That´s absolutely right!

Answer 7

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/575/575-h/575-h.htm#link2H_4_0016

Of Atheism
I HAD rather believe all the fables in the Legend, and the Talmud, and the Alcoran, than that this universal frame is without a mind. And therefore, God never wrought miracle, to convince atheism, because his ordinary works convince it. It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism; but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion. For while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the chain of them, confederate and linked together, it must needs fly to Providence and Deity. Nay, even that school which is most accused of atheism doth most demonstrate religion; that is, the school of Leucippus and Democritus and Epicurus. For it is a thousand times more credible, that four mutable elements, and one immutable fifth essence, duly and eternally placed, need no God, than that an army of infinite small portions, or seeds unplaced, should have produced this order and beauty, without a divine marshal. The Scripture saith, The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God; it is not said, The fool hath thought in his heart; so as he rather saith it, by rote to himself, as that he would have, than that he can thoroughly believe it, or be persuaded of it. For none deny, there is a God, but those, for whom it maketh that there were no God. It appeareth in nothing more, that atheism is rather in the lip, than in the heart of man, than by this; that atheists will ever be talking of that their opinion, as if they fainted in it, within themselves, and would be glad to be strengthened, by the consent of others. Nay more, you shall have atheists strive to get disciples, as it fareth with other sects. And, which is most of all, you shall have of them, that will suffer for atheism, and not recant; whereas if they did truly think, that there were no such thing as God, why should they trouble themselves? Epicurus is charged, that he did but dissemble for his credit's sake, when he affirmed there were blessed natures, but such as enjoyed themselves, without having respect to the government of the world. Wherein they say he did temporize; though in secret, he thought there was no God. But certainly he is traduced; for his words are noble and divine: Non deos vulgi negare profanum; sed vulgi opiniones diis applicare profanum. Plato could have said no more. And although he had the confidence, to deny the administration, he had not the power, to deny the nature. The Indians of the West, have names for their particular gods, though they have no name for God: as if the heathens should have had the names Jupiter, Apollo, Mars, etc., but not the word Deus; which shows that even those barbarous people have the notion, though they have not the latitude and extent of it. So that against atheists, the very savages take part, with the very subtlest philosophers. The contemplative atheist is rare: a Diagoras, a Bion, a Lucian perhaps, and some others; and yet they seem to be more than they are; for that all that impugn a received religion, or superstition, are by the adverse part branded with the name of atheists. But the great atheists, indeed are hypocrites; which are ever handling holy things, but without feeling; so as they must needs be cauterized in the end. The causes of atheism are: divisions in religion, if they be many; for any one main division, addeth zeal to both sides; but many divisions introduce atheism. Another is, scandal of priests; when it is come to that which St. Bernard saith, non est jam dicere, ut populus sic sacerdos; quia nec sic populus ut sacerdos. A third is, custom of profane scoffing in holy matters; which doth, by little and little, deface the reverence of religion. And lastly, learned times, specially with peace and prosperity; for troubles and adversities do more bow men's minds to religion. They that deny a God, destroy man's nobility; for certainly man is of kin to the beasts, by his body; and, if he be not of kin to God, by his spirit, he is a base and ignoble creature. It destroys likewise magnanimity, and the raising of human nature; for take an example of a dog, and mark what a generosity and courage he will put on, when he finds himself maintained by a man; who to him is instead of a God, or melior natura; which courage is manifestly such, as that creature, without that confidence of a better nature than his own, could never attain. So man, when he resteth and assureth himself, upon divine protection and favor, gathered a force and faith, which human nature in itself could not obtain. Therefore, as atheism is in all respects hateful, so in this, that it depriveth human nature of the means to exalt itself, above human frailty. As it is in particular persons, so it is in nations. Never was there such a state for magnanimity as Rome. Of this state hear what Cicero saith: Quam volumus licet, patres conscripti, nos amemus, tamen nec numero Hispanos, nec robore Gallos, nec calliditate Poenos, nec artibus Graecos, nec denique hoc ipso hujus gentis et terrae domestico nativoque sensu Italos ipsos et Latinos; sed pietate, ac religione, atque hac una sapientia, quod deorum immortalium numine omnia regi gubernarique perspeximus, omnes gentes nationesque superavimus.

Answer 8

he had vd