Did you guys know??

Question

Did any of you know that the Catholic French Canadians that moved into Waterville, ME from Quebec Canada were mistreated & persecuted by those ignorant Ku Klux Klan back in the early 1900's?? These are my ancestors. My man's African American, and I always felt for what his ancestors went through. But actually knowing my Great-Great Grandparents went through some of the same persecutions as African Americans did, truely saddened me. (And I know that the African Americans went through a little more extreme situations)
I feel even closer to my man knowing this.

What I want to tell all you bigots out there that are ignorant and racist. You never know what your ancestry hides!!
If you get a chance here is a article and a movie re: my ancestry. Hope that you find it as interesting as I.

http://wakingupfrench.com/art.shtm

God Bless!

lillibut-------This is the GENEALOGY Forum, which means you discuss your Ancestry fool!! If you don't care or find my comments interesting, then don't look at it! I could really careless!! : )

FYI! I was not using this section to cause division among the users by posting this info. I was surprised to find this out, that is all!!!!!!!!!!

PPL need to realize some of us are just learning about our ancestors and just want to share what we learn.

I didn't realize SOME PPL think they own this section!!

You ALL need to get a life!!

Answer 1

I am of Irish Catholic descent and from Boston. I've been very aware that Catholics have been persecuted in the United States for centuries. The 'Klan' have targeted Catholics since the 19th century as undesirables.

The Usuline Convent was burned by protestants in August 1834 Boston, so we Catholics have a history of persecution here in Boston, Massachusetts.

Answer 2

Yes, I know the French Canadians were mistreated. Ever hear of New Orleans? gumbo? all that sort of stuff? How about the poem, "Evangeline"? BEFORE that, my ancestors had founded colonies in Maine, New Brunswick and New Foundland and were force out by the French Canadians, tortured, raped, their homes burned to the ground.
You have an interesting, valid point. But, I would point out that EVERYONE on earth is either being mistreated right now, or their ancestors were.
Remember your history books: Catholics tortured ALL non-Catholics for thousands of years. That is why so many of my ancestors came to the Colonies.
So, even if you are not a "bigot", your ancestors were! (Just like mine; several were Bishops!) That is the entire point: everyone is descended from people who were mistreated; every one is descended from people who did the mistreating. No one on earth would be alive if their ancestors had not conquered other people.
It is time to start being civilized.

Answer 3

oh yes... not just the african-americans were treated poorly and made into slaves. irish people were treated super bad when they first got here. "You're on the right track with the Irish connection, but it's not the great numbers of Irish policemen in America who gave the paddy wagon its name. Instead, as one source indicates, it came about because in the late 19th century, when the term was coined, the Irish were often the "low men on the social totem pole," and it was they who were rounded up and placed in the police patrol wagon when a show of power was needed by the police for publicity purposes. Paddy is the diminutive form of Padraig, Irish-Gaelic for `Patrick' and a common first name among the Irish." 1
or how about the japanese during WWII?? they were forced into concetration camps!

Answer 4

In the past, people were not tolerant at all.
You were not suppose to be different, religion, race or whatever.

It has been said that America was founded on freedom of religion. The fact is people came here looking for their freedom of religion. They were not always too concerned whether someone else got theirs.

The religious confrontations in Europe during the 16th and 17th centuries showed intolerance on all sides. Some of that spilled over into the new world. Theology often became polarized with one side putting emphasis on certain things and the other side putting emphasis on the opposite as a rebuttal.

The four Southern colonies were Church of England but the remaining colonies mostly were populated by English wanting to get away from and not pay tithes to the King's church.


During the Revolutionary war, colonist were divided between those supporting the revolution and those opposing it, called Loyalist. After the War, they didnt all get together and have a big Fourth of July picnic. The winners took it out on the losers.
They burned their homes down. France as an act of humanitaranism gave safe haven into the Louisiana territory for those who supported King George. A couple who was a good family friend, who was known as Aunt and Uncle to my sisters and me, were descended from those loyalist. Uncle Tom said,"well, if our side had won we would have hung them all."




The slaves were brought over originally by Protestant Dutch and English and Catholic Spain. So both were guilty.

The natives in the new world were treated shabbiliy by both the English and the Spanish. The French did a better job at showing tolerance and understanding to the natives. That is why the natives allied themselves with the French against the English and the Spanish.

The Southern planter was in the South but the slave trader most often was a Yankee or a Knickerbocker like the Roosevelts. FDR's grandfather was a slave trader. It was financed by New York bankers. The Southerners answer to the fact that some had slaves is that those in the North wanted to free them after they had made their wealth in selling them. Up until the South seceded, they were trying to get Congress to require some consideration from the merchants of slaves to at least partially reimburse the Southern planter for their cost.

There is a man in my town that came here about 30 years ago to head an insurance agency. He had a way of becoming insufferable about making snide remarks about southern ancestry due to slavery. But not too many years ago he found out that his Mayflower ancestors of whom he was so proud were deeply involved in the slave trade. Other have found out about it and he has had to take it on the chin.

Although, there is a great deal of hedonism into today's America, I think we have evolved in our understanding of human rights and dignity.

However, the new world is not entirely guilty.
The 19th century saw a rise of a new type of slavery in Europe at the dawn of the industrial revolution. The period of Dickens.
Homeless orphans were put in workhouses to spend their lives. This was something that deeply angered Pope Leo XIII. His encyclical RerumNovarum was far in advance of his time. Some say if he had been canonized he would have been made the patron saint of the American Labor Movement except he made the Irish mad when he opposed the Land League in Ireland. The American labor movement was dominated by the Irish. I believe he was sincere in that he wanted to avoid bloodshed in Ireland.

The document of the original Knights of Labor was Pope Leo's enclcylical Rerum Novarum. You can put them side by side and they are the same document. However he oppposed the Knights of Labor because it was a secret society. He knew about the dangers of secret societies, even those began for purposes of fighting evil, as one had emerged centuries before in Sicily.

So we must realize all of our ancestors involved in injustices, but we don't bear grievance against their descendants and hope they don't bear grievance against us.

Answer 5

Is your man going to marry you, or just give you the pleasure of his company until someone with a bigger bra size comes along?

Your rant would be more effective if it didn't have so many incomplete sentences.

My ancestors got shat upon because they were Huguenots. If your ancestors were not rich, white, land-owning protestant males who could trace their family back 3 - 4 generations, they got the short end of the stick. Catholics, Jews, Blacks, Irish, Italians, Scots, Mexicans, Chinese, Japanese, red Indians, Hindu Indians . . . the list is endless.

Answer 6

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Answer 7

I didn't know that. You see, my ancestors came from Saturn. They brought the rings with them in a made up game that was called Ring Around The Rosie.

Answer 8

you aren't using this area to research or understand your heritage.. you are using it to create hostility and division.
We all had ancestors who were the targets of discrimination. Most of us have embraced ways to end it, not dig it back up.

Answer 9

I really dont think you should post this question /statement here. Buy a soap box and stand on it in the town centre and shout it out there , but not in the genealogy forum.

Answer 10

my ancestors were the kkk