Question about the bible in context.?

Question

We have all looked at this but I was questioning how do we take the bible in contect. There are hundreds of verses that can be interpreted any way you like.

Look at Communion, Jesus said unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood there is no life in you. OK so lots of people following him said this is nuts. He didnt say unless you believe I will die for your sins.

Jews were expecting a Messiah were they not, they were used to Temple sacrifice, if Jesus meant his death and resurection he surely would have said it, otherwide he was just pushing people away -

He didnt say you have to drink my blood and then everyone runs off and then he says privatly "hey I didnt mean that, i meant beleive in my sacrifice" because he would have wrongly sent people away.

When did the change in the belief in communion happen. Was it with Luther or after him

The more I read about Luther the less reputable he seems. He wanted to commit a Holocaust on the Jews similar to Nazis and wrote a book about it.

He also did things that would make the worst tele-evangelist blush.

So how can he be reputable, and why do people trust the bible that he put together.

There are so many questions and so little answers.

J.

Your answer is false, Jesus said that you have to drink his blood and eat his flesh. This wasnt done with the temple sacrifice. He was refering to physicaly having to drink his blood and eat his flesh.

It had very little to do with remembering his death. We are supposed to do that every second.

Answer 1

Crucially important Q - but don't bring Luther's reputation into it or we shall have to start examining various Popes' reputations too!

You'll find Jesus said many things that upset and shocked most of the people he spoke to. He deliberately said strange and difficult things because he could read their hearts and knew who were out to trap him, and who just wanted what he could give them. Even sincere seekers were tested by him first - consider the Gentile woman whom he indirectly referred to as a dog. She replied, 'Yes, Lord, but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table,' and Jesus was so moved by her humility and her persistence that he healed her daughter (Mat 15:21-28).

He spoke in parables because 'The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. ...This is why I speak to them in parables:'Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.' In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: 'You will be ever hearing but never understanding, you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people's heart has become calloused...' (Mat 13:1-23).

Jesus' hard words about apparently violating the OT laws against drinking blood, and cannibalism, caused a huge uproar. He had been asked what he would do to rival the miracle of Moses giving the Israelites manna in the wilderness. He told them his Father gives the true bread from heaven - himself. They wanted this bread. He said, 'I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty' [clearly, symbolic language] 'But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe' (John 6:25-70).

Jesus said 'The words I have spoken to you are SPIRIT and they are life. Yet there are some of you who do not believe.' The spiritual truths he proclaimed had to be discerned by the Spirit, and faith has to be the response to testimony. Jesus literally sacrificed his physical body and his blood. But as he came to fulfill the Law and the Prophets, he could not violate that Law. That Law says anyone drinking blood is to be stoned to death because blood is a sacred symbol of the sanctity of God-given life. Now, can any RCs explain how Jesus could violate that God-given Law and still remain sinless?

The final Q - There have always been groups of believers who resisted attempts to uphold the doctrine of transubstantiation and they have always been persecuted and called heretics and sects. They frequently refer in their writings to their entire dissent from the union of Church and State in the time of Constantine and of Sylvester, then bishop in Rome. A detailed history of them is in 'The Pilgrim Church' by E.H. Broadbent, Pickering Classics. I commend it to you.

Answer 2

This is the very issue that converted me to Catholicism. The issue was whether or not the Eucharist of symbolic or actually Jesus Himself. In RCIA we were taught John 6. I saw where Jesus repeatedly said that we had to eat His flesh and drink His blood. Well, I didn’t get it at first. I knew the Church believed in the real presence, but where was the proof?

It wasn’t until I went home and had time to quietly think about by myself that I finally understood. It was during this simple, solitary little moment that a question so simple came into my head, “If He was speaking symbolically, then what reason would the Jews have had to be angry with Him?”

At that moment, I finally understood everything. I knew then, that Christ was truly present – body, blood, soul and divinity – in the Blessed Eucharist. I cried that night, cried to exhaustion. The tears ran with grieved sorrow and euphoric joy all mixed together. I had finally found Him.

Despite the flack we get all time, it IS my sincere wish that others would come to know the joy that I have found. Through all the bickering and debating, nothing would give me more pleasure than for others to find Him in the Blessed Sacrament the way I did. I know that with Jesus, they will.

God bless and take care.

Answer 3

You asked for context; I shall limit myself to communion and Messiah.

Communion come from Jesus request to repeat a ceremony the where he break bread and drinks wine. He did this the evening before he is executed. The Hebrew calendar is a moon calendar is a moon calender where a day (24 hour period) is from evening to evening. Any Jew would tell you that break and wine are used in any religious feast. He compares himself to the lamb that is slaughter. There is your context.

The Messiah is the one God sends. There is the Jewish view and there is the Christian view. The Jews do not believe that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah, and they have hundreds of verses that say so. The Christian believes otherwise. But where do the bible come in. You have four accounts that if you dig, you will find all the verses that Jesus (a Jewish Rabbi) used. Did Jesus use enough? Jesus ministered to the Jews. And in the end the Jews rejected and has the Roman execute him. That the thought was the end of the matter under God intervene. There is your second context.

Oddly enough, communication and Messiah are related. You have context for both.

The bible interrupts itself by design, so no outside source is necessary.

Answer 4

Reading about church history, and the biographies of its leaders does serve a purpose. Learning about Jesus Christ, and God, this, you have to go to the Bible to learn.

True, verses can be interpreted different ways, but not really. Let me explain-
To read a verse and draw the intended meanings out of it is called exegesis.
To read a verse, and place a meaning INTO it, making it say what it does NOT say, is called eisegesis.

When the Bible is read correctly, it is an incredibly harmonious whole.
When you hear of some belief from the Bible, CHECK IT OUT to see if it not only is in there, but is kept in context with the whole of scripture.
If something contradicts the Bible, you can bet it is an incorrect translation/interpretation.

Answer 5

The Bible is a science book that mankind misinterpreted into a religious book. That's why it's been so confusing for everyone to understand.

Answer 6

The scripture should never be taken out of context with other scripture. It should be taken literally and without the assumption of error. It doesn't take rocket scientist
to read scripture and understand it, being a simple Shepard will do.


God Bless

Answer 7

"We have all looked at this but I was questioning how do we take the bible in contect."

Jam 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all [men] liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Answer 8

It's a bad bad thing to actually do research before you address Christians. They want their religion right off the script they've listened to since childhood. This is especially true of Protestants. The S.J.s are great to debate with--excuse me, Jesuits..

Answer 9

Where are you getting you information ?

Proper research will help you to comprehend the very simple facts