I'm often told that evolution can't happen because it ignores the Second Law of Thermodynamics which states that the entropy of a system always increases. Ignoring that all it takes to overcome the second law is energy and the Earth recieves pleny from the sun, lets just assume evolution breaks the second law. Well God breaks the First law of Thermodynamics. The First Law of Thermodynamics states that matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed. If matter and energy can be created or destroyed, then the universe could not have been created by God because God would have broken the first law.
2007-08-08 06:21:16 · 28 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Newtonian physics is like time, it only describes what we observe. Quantum physics tends to be closer to how the actual Tao evolved the cosmos and is not limited to space time continuum's
2007-08-08 06:29:57 · answer #1 · answered by nikola333 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Evolution does not ignore the second law of thermodynamics. The law states that the universe must always become more disorganized, but local systems can become more organized. Look at your body or your house, these systems appear to disobey the 2nd law because you bathe or you clean your house, however, you expend energy to do all these things, which in the end will increase entropy.
God did not create something out of nothing, but organized the world from matter already present. Check the Hebrew Bible to get a clarification on the usage of "create" in present Bibles/KJV. In this sense, God not only does not break the 1st law but keeps the 2nd law as well.
Despite my answer there really is no way to prove/disprove the existence of God. It is dependent on faith. I don't have all the answers, nor do you or science.
2007-08-08 06:31:23 · answer #2 · answered by cscpianoman 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Actually evolution does not defy the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
"The entropy of an isolated system not in equilibrium will tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value at equilibrium."
The nautre and ecosystems are not isolated systems. Duane Gish took out the phase isolated system so he could prove a failing point.
But now on to your thing, heres the first law, "The increase in the internal energy of a thermodynamic system is equal to the amount of heat energy added to the system minus the work done by the system on the surroundings." So actually one could say that God supplied the energy for the Big Bang. Then with the energy provided by God matter started to form (matter is energy).
So actually the idea of God creating the universe can abide by the laws of thermodynamics.
2007-08-08 06:42:02 · answer #3 · answered by MyNameAShadi 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
That one is so simple that I wonder why you would bother to ask it? God is the initial energy that created everything. Otherwise where did it come from? Someone or something had to be the "first cause" - the energy that started it all.
According to the Bible, that was God. His creation of the physical universe would not be a violation, but rather an application of the First Law. His energy produced all matter.
2007-08-08 06:28:27 · answer #4 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Genesis 1:1 God who existed before He created all you can observe is reveal knowledge. Tell me how you know this is not true.
Everything you have said has been observed by man. Using the scientific method you have describe scientific theories that explain scientific facts. Scientific facts are observation made by two or more persons independent of location.
So back to Genesis, we have a God who existed before observation. He is a God that is in the unobservable before He created the observable. To dispute this, you must be able to observe the unobservable.
Now back to science. Science (which means to know) has limited itself to observation, in fact observation by two or more independent of location. It makes no statement about something that is unobservable. Using the scientific method you have everything you stated except one simple fact. Who created matter and energy? What was there before matter and energy? Science (including you) using physics have no observable answer.
The scientific theory of evolution explains scientific facts. Thermodynamics has not to do with it. As with any theory, if the facts change, the theory might. Thermodynamics adds no new facts.
Before you bring God in the discussion, understand that the bible is not a history and science book. It is revelation. Revelation may be believed or not believed, but it can not be proved or disproved. When you apply the scientific method to revelation, you get nonsense (it does not make any sense). For example, creationism is not science but belief.
Answer: God reveals, man observes.
2007-08-08 06:44:41 · answer #5 · answered by J. 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
People who make that claim don't understand the Second Law of Thermodynamics. The law states that the overall entropy of the SYSTEM will increase, it doesn't say that localized order can't be introduced. There's nothing about evolution that violates the Second Law, because even as life organizes itself, the entropy of the universe as a whole is still increasing.
2007-08-08 06:25:22 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
There are no known violations of the second law of thermodynamics. Ordinarily the second law is stated for isolated systems, but the second law applies equally well to open systems.There is somehow associated with the field of far-from-equilibrium thermodynamics the notion that the second law of thermodynamics fails for such systems. It is important to make sure that this error does not perpetuate itself.
Dr John Ross of Harvard University
2007-08-08 06:34:00 · answer #7 · answered by Derek B 4 · 0⤊ 2⤋
That argument about the 2nd law of thermodynamics is pure BS.
It ONLY applies if the world was a closed system. And it's not. The sun makes it an open system.
QED.
2007-08-08 06:27:17 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
God created space, time, the laws of physics, and the laws of thermodynamics, etc...
we are trapped in to this time and space while he can be past, present, future...what ever he chooses...at the same time...
his universe and his laws......
God does not need our permission or understanding to do that which he does and has done...
2007-08-08 06:35:31 · answer #9 · answered by coffee_pot12 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Don't mix faith and science. It never works out. People who try to prove their faith through scientific methods will only fail, and then squew the results or the language to prove they were right. People who try to prove science over faith will lose also, firstly because in quantum physics, ANYTHING is possible in a infinite universe, and second, the basis of faith is beliveing something without evidence.
Faith should be based on faith, not facts. That's why it's called faith. If you need facts to prove that something you believe exists, then you either don't really believe it exists, or you're trying to prove to others that your faith is the "true faith", which is impossible. The only person you can convince of the one true faith is yourself.
2007-08-08 06:34:55 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
hahahahaha, this is a funny and very uneducated question . so your saying u would rather believe some old dead guy over God who created all. do scientist not also believe the big bang theory(if u dont know wat that is u dont even deserve 2 ask questions as dumb as this) which says that the unviverse was created by an explosion(which means that all matter was made by an exploson). people say that the bible contradicts it self(no1 has ever been able 2 prove it does, all the examples people have given me r taken out of context) but i think that it is science that contradicts it self(i just gave an example how it does, and wow i did it without taking anything out of context)
2007-08-08 06:35:39 · answer #11 · answered by midge 2 · 1⤊ 2⤋