John 12:31-32 "NOW IS the (loving) judgment of this world;
NOW shall the (evil) prince of this world be cast out.
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, (HE IS since AD30 !)
I (JESUS CHRIST) will DRAW ALL MEN (Humans!)
to MySelf !"
Since our One God-Man Creator Person Jesus Christ is Spirit Powerful to DRAW ALL Humans to Him, does that mean eventual or immediate universal salvation ?
Are the "many mansions" (higher mansion worlds -- our next higher Heavens, made by Jesus Christ) for our continued rehabilitation, at all similar to any of Catholic's better concepts of "purgatory" ?
Does this also mean that --
with Jesus, here fully in Spirit, (John 16:7-16) and telling us in our Spirit-led souls and minds to "Love your enemies."
--we will have all of our supposed "enemies" up in the next higher Heavens to have to learn how to love and work with in doing God's will ?
Pray and reflect on what Jesus really is telling us on this.
Q is for sincere Christians !
2007-08-08
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You know, I can honestly say that I have no clue... but I would love to hear what you think. :)
2007-08-08 05:36:50
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answered by hthr_jacobs 2
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I thank the lord over our lives , the question was just interwoven but all bore down to almost the same the Lord Jesus Christ said he will remove the chaff from the tares and cast them into the fire, the bible asks the question can the two work together unless they agree , the lord will only identify with his own. He said the shepherd knows his sheep and the sheep can only understand the master's voice. By the time the Lord will draw all Men to himself implies those that belong to him, the prince of this world and all that belong to him would have been cast out.
2007-08-08 12:52:54
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answered by happynews 2
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Your Scriptural reference appears to illustrate the consequence of Jesus' crucifixion. That he will draw all men does not mean that all will believe in him. One's soul needs to be led by the Holy Spirit for, without it, there is no other way we can truly love others. Some authorities believe that there are three heavens:this earth being the first heaven and God's kingdom the third; the 'next heaven' being the domain of the demonic.
2007-08-16 07:21:04
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answered by cheir 7
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The 'ALL' here is obviously in reference to all people that choose, but we must remember that at the end every knee shall bow and confess that Jesus is Lord.
You cannot take one verse as the gospel message; we must consider all things that the gospel preaches and this includes the doctrine of hell. Universal Salvation is an iffy subject.
2007-08-08 13:09:30
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answered by ShemaYisrael 2
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God does not allow sin into heaven..
Man is full of sin since the fall of Adam and Eve.
Man had to make blood sacrifices to repent of their sin.
Jesus came to die for the sins of mankind to replace blood sacrifices. He was the ultimate sacrifice. Any one believing that Jesus is their Lord will be saved.
When we die and reach heaven, there is no sin in heaven and we would be incapable of sinning, therefore no need for rehabilitation of any kind.
There is only love in heaven therefore there would be no more "enemys" in heaven, only friends.
Jesus says "In my Father's house are many mansions. If it were not true I would have told you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you unto myself, so that where I am, there you may be also." (John 14:1-3)
There is no "purgatory." Only paradise.
Jesus tells us to love our enemies on earth and to pray for them. If we don't, we won't know the joy of forgivness and they won't know the meaning of mercy. Jesus advocates both. He wishes for mankind to live in harmony on earth until we make it to heaven.
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God."
2007-08-16 02:04:10
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answered by blogdog123 4
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It is your Christ Self that this refers to not Jesus authentic being. We all have this potential.
Your essential nature - as opposed to your 'learned' obstinate ego (evil prince) - that will draw all men.
In my father's house are many rooms - is the multidimensional reality - where each of us participates in the whole through our unique experience of reality.
2007-08-08 17:37:20
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answered by MysticMaze 6
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That he will be crucified, and defeat the devil (the prince of this world), by doing so. We will be drawn to him (verse 32) and everything he stands for.
2007-08-08 12:43:27
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answered by great gig in the sky 7
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Typical Christian reading. Just add your own interpretation and pass it off as fact.
I believe that the man Jesus, wanted us to seek knowledge and enlightenment.
2007-08-08 12:39:25
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answered by Gorgeoustxwoman2013 7
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Universalism is NOT Scriptural.......which by the way reminds me......the word Catholic means "universal"........just a slight coincidence perhaps?
The "all" in that verse refers to all who are the chosen & called. You obviously don't believe in the truth of predestination do you?
2007-08-08 12:36:31
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answered by primoa1970 7
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Are you using this soap box to advance a new religion? I'd say you need to take some time to learn before you preach.
2007-08-13 11:57:01
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answered by Anonymous
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