Deuteronomy 30:19
This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live
How can you say, with this scripture that God would not want us to be pro-life?
2007-08-08
05:30:14
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God created people who "throw away babies in trash cans'> So that makes it ok to abort before birth. HELP me understand that
2007-08-08
05:37:46 ·
update #1
A jewish view or a Christian's view of when life begins is not necessarily when God says life begins. Where is scripture does it say life begins at birth? I want to see the passage, please
2007-08-08
08:45:59 ·
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Anjel- I am so sorry to hear that you had to go through a rape, and at the age of 13- how horrible. Please know that my question was not meant to offend anyone either- God bless you
2007-08-08
08:49:21 ·
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theresathegreat- I totally understand that this passage of scripture does not JUST mean abortion- but how could you say it doesn't relate- "choose life and your children will live".
2007-08-08
08:52:18 ·
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You are right.
Saying God gave us free will and therefore God is pro-choice is ridiculous. Free will is our right to choose God or not...when we choose abortion we are exercising our free will to choose against God and against life.
God is not pro "our right to choose an abortion." He creates and cares for each life. The Bible also says: 'Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations." (Jeremiah 1:5). This tells us two things...God is the one that "forms life in the womb" and that God has a plan and purpose for that life.
It is by design that a child is conceived and grows in it's mother's womb. This is divine because each of us is created in God's image...but it is also natural in that our nurturing instinct is inate. A pregnant woman and mother will do anything to protect her offspring. Yet, with abortion we see women daily going against their instinct and against their divine calling.
Women should stand up for their rights. Their right to not be duped by the feminist skewed view. I was part of that movement at one time. I thought pro-choice was pro-woman. I thought abortion gave us the ability to be equal to men...after all men were not the ones saddled with babies and day care etc. I thought if men can run around having sex without consequence...then women should be given that same right. Oh, how very wrong I was. It's not about our right to have sex...sex is not a right, it is a gift. It purpose is procreation and the gift of love is children...new beings created in the image of God.
God is pro-life. God knows when a sparrow falls...how much more must he care and love each one of us?
2007-08-08 05:52:03
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answer #1
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answered by Misty 7
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True story:
When I was 13 I was raped. I of course didn't know anything about babies let alone what I would be in for, but my parents didn't want me to have an abortion (like I would have known the difference) so I had the child.
Without getting too in depth of this issue, where does "pro-life" or "pro-choice" lay when you have no understanding of either and the right of consent was never given that caused this issue in the first place?
Don't misunderstand me,I don't like abortions but I am against society telling a woman what she can or can't do with her body and using the bible as an example. The bible also says: do not lie-we all have lied. It says: Obey your mother and father-all of us have gone against our parents one time or another. It says: Do not worship any other God but Me-we celebrate things designed around pagan gods all the time. I have battled with this as a Christian for a long time.
There is not one person here that can say without a doubt in their hearts that if they or their child was raped the consideration of an abortion wouldn't come up! Unless you have gone through it personally, you can't say it honestly.
This is MY opinion and I am not forcing it onto anyone else, I'm just stating what I have gone through and the battle I'm still facing in my walk.
So if I have offended anyone, I am sorry.
2007-08-08 13:14:53
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answered by Anonymous
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Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them. Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place. And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
How can you say, with this scripture that God would not want us to stone our children to death when they are insolent and stubborn and disobedient?
With any luck, you'll see my point that God recommends A LOT of pretty messed up rules in the Bible. But as a Christian, how can you follow some of them and not others? Don't you have to either follow ALL or NONE?
4HIM:
Yes, that is an exact quote from my profile. The central point of my answer, which unfortunately you completely missed, is that it's absurdly hypocritical to select Biblical scripture that supports some of your views, yet ignore Biblical scripture (in the same book, no less) that opposes some of them. If those truly are your positions, then fine; just don't try to use the Bible as a source to justify them, because you lose a great deal of credibility in your argument.
2007-08-08 13:20:57
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answered by Anonymous
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Since you're quoting the Hebrew Bible, you should probably know the Jewish view of when "life" begins.
Not all Jews agree on much of anything, but many Jews believe that life begins when God breathes a soul into an infant with his first breath. Jews believe that the most viable life must be saved when there is a question between two lives.
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2007-08-08 15:30:05
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answered by Hatikvah 7
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Job told us, "Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked I will depart. The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away; May the name of the Lord be praised." In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrong doing.
God gives and God takes away. It is His creation and we have no right to play God. When we do, it is murder. When God takes a life away, He has the right because He loves that person. God is pro-life here on the earth and eternally.
If someone makes a mistake and the girl becomes pregnant. This includes the boy as well as the girl. Ask God for forgiveness for disobedience and then, please find a home for your baby with loving parents. Allow that child the life that God has given it. That life is not your choice but, God's.
Aztrain, this is your exact quote in your profile: " I believe in protecting the powerless against the powerful, and in fighting for those who can't fight for themselves. "
2007-08-08 13:54:10
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answered by 4HIM- Christians love 7
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I believe in pro-life,life begins at the time of conception.Killing an unborn baby is murder.Think of it this way:When Scott Peterson was charged with murder and found guilty of both his wife and her unborn son....where were all the people who are pro-choice,we didn't hear a protest that he should only be charged with just his wife's murder;you get the point....About throwing a baby away in the trash...people have a choice to sin and a choice to believe in a living God to forgive them if they repent and believe. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone.
2007-08-08 13:38:51
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answered by ana 5
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Perhaps God does want us to be pro-life.... but in this scripture it does not specify that he is talking about the abortion debate. He is directing you to choose life, to choose blessings, to choose good things, instead of filling your days with death and curses and destruction.
But there is nothing specific in the passage. You could apply this maxim to almost anything - it could be argued that he is directing everyone to be vegetarians (to choose to not kill animals to feed ourselves); to never use deadly force to defend yourself or a victim against an attacker; to never allow anyone to die of neglect, abuse, capital punishment, or hunger; and so on.
Choosing life is obviously a good thing... but the definition isn't always so simple. What if a pregnancy endangers the life of the woman, and it is a choice between her life (the existing life) and the life of the unborn embryo/fetus/baby (the life that has, arguably, not yet begun)?
Life is complex, so applying simple rules isn't always very easy. It's your perogative if you believe your your holy texts support pro-life, and you can abide by those beliefs willingly and joyfully. But please keep in mind that not everyone is a member of your religion, and therefore should not be bound or judged by the rules of your religion - you can argue against abortion on religious grounds for people who share your religion, OR on legal grounds for people who share your legal system, but you can't mix the two in a fair debate.
2007-08-08 12:51:07
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answered by teresathegreat 7
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Sister..the wages of Sin will always be death. God is the only sanity in this whole universe. He is the One who is Life itself. He is the One Who came that we might have life and have it abundantly ( john 10:10)
OUtside of God everything will die. If not a physical death then the death of separation from God who is Life itself.
Because of Sin all things in its path will suffer. We need to check our own selves as to what we choose in our lives. What kind of choices do we make as mothers with children in our womb to what kind of words of life do we impart to our kids on a daily basis.
Its goes even beyond preserving a child's beginnings. It continues on throughout that child's life. We need to see that " life' is a serious matter. Both the Human life that we receive and the Divine Life that we are Born of from God. We need to care for both in ourselves and in our children.
God is the Author of Life.
2007-08-08 13:00:59
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answered by Broken Alabaster Flask 6
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God did intend for us to be PRO-LIFE! You see, God is the giver and taker of life. This is scriptural.
Now, if we take a life....basically, we are playing God! It is He who gives us life and it is He who takes it!
As for abortion....it is legal murder! There are far too many people out there who want to adopt, to throw away a child!
2007-08-08 12:59:39
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answered by Anonymous
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I agree totally. Choose life, the free gift from the Most High!
2007-08-08 12:45:17
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answered by Anonymous
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