do you think ANYONE who wants to come and live in the uk bad enough, should have learned basic english, prior

Question

...to putting in their application?

has it got to the stage where we only want to be encouaging incomers who share our values and want to be no different to us, after a generation or two?

do you think this language clause should be required from all applicants, or only from those who come from communities that have already demonstrated problems in their level of commitment to integrate..ie muslims......on the grounds that we know all the others...whoever they are---african chinese inuit polish brazillian etc etc etc will be no different to us and speaking perfect english after a generation of uk schooling, but that muslims will still want to continue keeping themselves separate, not speaking english unless it suits them and wanting to bring in more of their own "segregation minded" people from poor backward areas of the world.

im talking here about economic migrants

Answer 1

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Shari law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that
Extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament "If those are not your values,
If you want a country which has Shari law or a theocrat IC state, then Australia is not! For you", he said on National Television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Shari law and have the opportunity
To go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told re porters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to live by
Australian values and understand them, well th en, they can basically clear off", he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks onBali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."

"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, no r do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia."
"However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, nee d to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own
Lifestyle."

"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom" "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .. Learn the language!" "Most Australians believe in
God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact , because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, th en I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture." "We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us." "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this
Planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't
Care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others. "This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly
Encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'T HE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."

"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here So accept the country YOU accepted."

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths !

If you agree please SEND THIS TO EVERYBODY YOU KNOW.

Answer 2

It's a good idea in principle, as a common language is part of the 'glue' that binds the community together. Two points though:

Learning a language is hard. I'm learning Spanish with an aim to live there, and it's gonna take me a year for basic conversational level. A reasonable time limit should be imposed.

Secondly, a country may take a tit-for-tat action and impose restrictions on UK travellers. Although that might help to integrate those building Little Britain on the Spanish coast.

Answer 3

Yes, we should only allow in those who can speak and write english (and can be understood when speaking it). ALL immigrants should have to take this test. Government goes on about encouraging British values, but when a large portion of the population is not British, and a lot of them don't even speak the language very well, then we're just going to get seperation and segregation in the community.

I also think that they shoul also have a skill we need (no more builders, or plumbers or whatever), like a qualified nurse, or teacher (even if they just teach their first language), or something. Also, I think that those who do come here should be given three months to find a job, and start paying taxes, or they are made to leave. I also think that they should have to pay for all non-emergancy treatment they recieve, until they heave been paying tax for a year. Perhaps then we wouldn't get people sponging off the state, and the NHS.

Answer 4

Yes, they should have a basic understanding of the language as well as taking classes once in the UK. Here in the States free classes are offered in most towns and cities. You would think that people would realized if they learned the language it would make their every day life much better. Able to communicate to others instead of speaking in broken English

Answer 5

I think all people who come into this country should learn English, if you want to be able to get by then it should be essential. If I was to go to France or Germany without having some knowledge and only expecting the host country to speak my language it would be insulting to that country, wouldn't it? I have no problem with people coming here and carrying on with their traditions, so long as it does not involve any violations on human rights. Again, anybody who comes to live and work in this country must abide by our law and rules as it would be the same if you travelled to another country, you break their laws you will be punished by their methods, in-humane or not. I hope this all makes sense. There are those however, who think that they do not need to abide by our laws and who expect us to abide by the way they do things, this I consider to be unacceptable.

Answer 6

There are Countries in the World which require immigrants who are applying for Citizenship, to attend Classes in the language.
I would like to see this introduced in England.
I worked in a hospital before retirement and it was extremely difficult to help patients who had no knowledge of even basic English. Sometimes the only interpreter would be a school child and there are personal questions which are totally inappropriate.
How can the Government expect people to "integrate" into our Society when a whole generation is unable to communicate?

Answer 7

Yes, I absolutely agree that anyone who comes to the UK at least for a short period of time with the purpose to work should , first of all, know English, basic English. It should be '' a must '' for the ones who are determined to stay longer or settle down for the rest of their life. Knowing the language is the key to getting to know the country's culture, traditions, customs.

Answer 8

They should do like New Zealand, Australia and Canada and include an internationally recognized english test to be taken by potential migrants. If they fail, they can't migrate.

For spouses of primary applicants, they will need to take English classes to prove they can integrate. Seems fair to me!

Answer 9

I think the funniest thing is the billions of pounds we are paying for translaters. There was even a woman from India interviewed who had been here for 30 odd years, but she only conversed to other people from India, constantly had a translater and a British passport, but couldnt' speak a word of english.

Also, was rather funny when I rung up teach.gov to enquire about the process of getting into teaching English in schools. I got a foreign lady on the line, who not only couldn't speak english, but who couldn't undertand or advise me!! I was asking about teaching english as a first language in the UK!!

HAHAHAHA

Answer 10

that's why the gates have got to close/ the government has to take a tough line and say enough no more allowed in and forget HR its our human rights that now have to be protected we are swimming with immigrants its not the country we are used to and fought for 1939/45 So come on Mr Brown show the British people some action and get this country back to normal and get all of those who don't integrate and speak and act our way of life out of here and back to where ever they came

Answer 11

this is such a long question I only read the main bit.

In a simple answer I think if you are going to emmigrate its only poilte to try and learn the language of the country your going to!!!! It doesnt matter who you are or where your from...if your going to live in a new country you should try and accept everything that goes along with living there, language being the 1st thing to spring to mind