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I recently made an inquisition on Jesus doubting God or himself (depending on the view of the quarreling Christians). Jesus screamed out while hanging from the cross: "FATHER, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME!!?" This implies that Jesus doubted...which if He did pretty much invalidates the whole foundation of Christianity.
The answers I got from this are either irrelevant or without evidence. If you Christians say that Jesus cried our and doubted and then IN FACT ENDED UP PRAISING GOD....then show me some facts!! Where in the Bible did it mention that Jesus praised God? I can only see him ending up in doubt!! Which sacks your religion!!!

2007-08-07 21:02:46 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

12 answers

IT FEELS TERRIBLE
AHHH IM MELTING
MEEEEEEEEELLTING!

2007-08-07 21:08:13 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

"FATHER, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME!!?" This implies that Jesus doubted."

If you really read the Bible, you'd see that earlier (garden of Gethsemane), he went off to be alone, whereby he asked God that if it's at all possible, he would rather not have to die for anyone or everyone's sins. In other words, he was having cold feet. I wonder if he kept some faint hope, that maybe, at the last minute, God would relent and say "No, I was just kidding, you don't have to die for anyone LOL" but in the end, at the last minute, he realized he had to do it anyway, so he must have been like "How can you DO this to me, God ?" :)

That's probably what ""FATHER, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME!!?" means.

I don't think it means he doubted, he was just mad that he had to do it.

2007-08-08 04:40:32 · answer #2 · answered by One 3 · 0 0

The final words of Jesus:
And Jesus called out with a loud voice. 'Father, into Your hands I entrust My Spirit'. Saying this, He breathed His last. Luke 23:46


Jesus was God in the flesh, but He suffered as a man on the cross. God cannot die, but a man can. He felt a separation from His Father in the waning moments of His life because the punishment for sin is separation from God. Having accepted the punishment for mans sin, He felt that too. And when He did, that is when He cried out to His Father that He had been forsaken. But as you can see, He died with his faith in His Father still in tact.

2007-08-08 04:16:49 · answer #3 · answered by out of the grey 4 · 0 0

I think I explained pretty well that you are acting like a pompous sack of turd who is more interested in looking smart than the answer to his own fabricated questions. The spelling and grammar you have used clearly discredit any claim you may make as to your intelligence, and your excessive use of exclamation points clearly shows that this whole rant of yours is motivated by passion rather than reason.

I suppose if one of us gave you a completely satisfactory answer you would just run off on some tangent and try to attack something else.

Why do you feel the need to attack Christianity so aggressively and so passionately? This is no longer about intelligent conversation with you--it's about some kind of vendetta, or some perverse pleasure you get out of showing others that (in your perception) you are better than them. I meant it every time I said you are an embarrassment to every other Atheist on this forum.

2007-08-08 04:17:16 · answer #4 · answered by SDW 6 · 2 0

WATCH ME SHUT YOU DOWN:

Jesus shouted out "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" Not in despair or doubt!

It was his last effort at proving to the Jews that He indeed was the Messiah by fulfilling the prophecy of Psalm 22 of which "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" were the first words of- which were well known to the Jews. The rest of the psalm explains exactly the situation Jesus found Himself in at that moment. Sections of Psalm 22 include:

My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me,
so far from the words of my groaning?

But I am a worm and not a man,
scorned by men and despised by the people.

All who see me mock me;
they hurl insults, shaking their heads:

"He trusts in the LORD;
let the LORD rescue him.
Let him deliver him,
since he delights in him."

My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth;
you lay me [b] in the dust of death.

Dogs have surrounded me;
a band of evil men has encircled me,
they have pierced [c] my hands and my feet.

I can count all my bones;
people stare and gloat over me.

They divide my garments among them
and cast lots for my clothing.




You guys have to stop being so cocky.

2007-08-08 04:12:51 · answer #5 · answered by Jyyzzoel 2 · 2 0

If Jesus DOUBTED His Father would He have cried out to Him? Jesus the man was DYING IN THE FLESH. He wanted comfort from His Father. Until you read the Bible you have NO CREDIBILITY OF YOUR OWN - just YOUR opinion. And as they say, opinions are like uhhhh - rear ends - and everybody has one.

2007-08-08 04:14:01 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Axel the scripture was given to you Psalms 22: 1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Psalms 22:8 He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.

Mat. 27:43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.

Psalms 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

Psalms 22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

Mat. 27:35 And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.

The prophesy was from Psalms and describes the crucifiction of Christ who was crucified for our sins as it was prophesied to be. Jesus is the Christ because he fulfilled the prophesies of the Messiah... Why does the Qu'ran call him the Messiah and deny the very prophesies that prove he is the Messiah?

2007-08-08 04:20:19 · answer #7 · answered by djmantx 7 · 1 0

I'm a Christian and asked the same question about why Jesus would say that. I was told that he was making a reference to Psalm 22. It was fulfilling prophecy. Psalm 22 includes:

Dogs have surrounded me; a band of evil men has encircled me, they have pierced my hands and my feet. I can count all my bones; people stare and gloat over me. They divide my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing.

It concludes:

They will proclaim his righteousness to a people yet unborn--for he has done it.

Psalm 22 seems to tell about the Crucifixion of Christ. He was making reference to it.

Here's a link to it, if you care to read it: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=psalm%2022&version=9

2007-08-08 04:22:16 · answer #8 · answered by blooming chamomile 6 · 0 0

My bible also tells me not to cast my pearls before swine friend and thats what a person
with your attitude is to the word of God. I
don't need to give you a good explanation
because you wouldnt care anyways its a
waste of time.

2007-08-08 04:19:19 · answer #9 · answered by disciple 4 · 0 0

it is so difficult to explain it to people ,even christians.the corpse,body ,flesh of Jesus was on the cross, and the fear he felt was human fear,and the body reacted to preserve itself, and cried out in anguish when the time came to die . the human being is the third part of the trinity. Jesus came to reunite us as the third party to God. when you believe in Jesus ,the holy spirit will witness with your soul that you are God in the flesh to find out realy who God is goto http://frikkiebotes.homemarker.com/cgi-b...

read john 17 verse 21

there is humbleness in knowledge , like there is arrogance in ignorance. the saying goes fools rush in where angels fear to tread

2007-08-08 04:09:32 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

My religion is not "sacked."
Jesus did not doubt.
He knew. He was in agony. Do you not cry out when you are in agony?

2007-08-08 05:48:46 · answer #11 · answered by batgirl2good 7 · 0 0

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