who else believes Andrew Wakefield was right about mmr link to autism?

Question

you people dont know s**t clearly cos its proven to have a link to epilepsy which is neurological, so why not autism? cos the government cover it up cos they dont want admit they're risking our kids.
do some research on dtp and sids, and mmr and autism. read the thousands of case studies which are all too similar to be wrong. then make your choice. but dont come answering my questions unless you've read both sides, IN FULL DEPTH FOR MONTHS ON END LIKE I BLOODY DID.

well if the health department will gladly spend £3million promoting the vaccine that must be a very small fraction of the compensation they'll be paying when its proven. i wont let my kids have it cos it caused autism with immediate effect in my sister, but i tell you one thing, i am not afraid to stand up for what i believe on this one, and if wakefields hearing has a positive outcome, im writing to all my local gps and health departments and giving them some classic s**t.

Answer 1

Well, when you stop to think that mercury is a poison, having it in a suspension for young children and infants can make you wonder. The medical and pharmaceutical companies are down playing it because if he is right, it leaves them wide open for medical lawsuits.

I do believe there is a connection and a cover-up is in progress, just like the tobacco companies.

Answer 2

I've seen the film on this subject (can't remember the title unfortunately) and it sounded logical the way they were saying it. Not everyone's the same and some medications (like MMR, perhaps) may cause damage to certain individuals and lead to toxins damaging the brain functions.

I don't think it's the sole cause of autism though. As far as I know, myself and my three sisters have had the injection but I'm the only one out of us diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder - I'd say (judging from the film, sorry, no proper research like you did) it was actual autism as most people know it that was triggered by the shot, I myself have recently(at 23 years of age) been diagnosed with PDD-NOS.

I do know though that "real" autism (the kind some people are born with, sorry for the use of the word "real" but I didn't know how else to put it) is permanent - the version caused by the MMR looked like it, seemed exactly like regular autism but it could be countered with the right diet. So I'm not sure what to think of that at all - can we really call it autism? It's not really completely the same, is it? I don't know - what's in a name anyway?

It's a really good thing you asked this question though as it will make people stop and think, much like the film did to me when I first saw it.

Jo

Answer 3

Both of my children are on the spectrum, and neither of them ever regressed. They were born with autism, and they will live the rest of their lives with autism, as will I.

Why would I spend months researching something, when I could spend that time getting to know my children? Autism is not a curable disease. It is pervasive, and life long. I know MANY parents that were so hung up on what caused their child's autism, that they forgot they were still raising a child. Some of these parents looked at photos and videos of the child's infancy and saw the red flags, but refused to believe it for a while.

Autistic like behaviors date back to the 1700's, were vaccines the cause then? And why vaccines, and not genetics? Why a conspiracy and not changes in our world? These things happen, and all special needs children are gifts. I'm glad my children are alive, and making progress.

Why don't we all just show the government and pharmaceutical companies that we aren't taking any more of their crap! Let's show them who's boss. No more vaccines, no more antibiotics! Wait..........That might benefit funeral homes.

Answer 4

To all uninformed persons, Wakefield recollected more intestinal specimens to check for the measles virus. Unfortunately, the lab that agreed to do the PCR has been threatened and now has refused to do it. This is not a hoax. Anyone attempting to find the measles virus (vaccine strain) has been silenced. Stop being ignorant. Any vaccines or medications can cause adverse reactions. These adverse reactions can lead to seizures, mental retardation, etc. The first autism cases resulted from early vaccines. The wealthy were to do were the first people to vaccinate their children. This is where the term "refrigerator mothers" came from. The doctor noticed that the parents were wealthy and assumed the mothers did not care for their children. The current cases of autism are different. There are so many toxins like aluminum and formaldeyde that are in vaccines. Our bodies have changed over time because of the effects of polluction. Our kids are being born with mutations in the genes due to polluction-- a research study found spontaneous mutations in the genes and these mutations were not found in the parents. I don't believe the mmr causes autism in the majority of the cases but I do believe that the measles portion is responsible for the peripheral vision (looks sideways, not making eye contact) found in autistic kids. Wild type measles virus causes blindness-- a real fact. This is due to the measles virus using up the vitamin A stored the rods of the eyes. Please stop saying that vaccinations do not cause autism. Seizures , high fevers )over 104 degrees, are common among those who are seeking compensation. There are many causes of autism, vaccine reactions are just one of them.

Answer 5

On one side of the fence you have:

- Anecdotes
- Conspiracy theories
- What looks like plain fraud (not reporting that positives were false positives even though they knew it)

On the other side there is data, scientific consensus and lack of replication of Wakefield's findings. To answer the question it's important to read the testimony from the Omnibus Hearings. You should also look at epidemiological studies that have been done. Most notably, the MMR vaccine was only used in Japan from 1989 to 1993. If an effect should've been noticed anywhere it should've been in Japan. Go to pubmed.gov and search for "(japanese OR japan) mmr autism".

Answer 6

Did you watch the trial at all? Two words for you:

Contaminated Samples

Wakefield knew this but this study wasn't about the truth. It was about acheiving desired outcomes at all costs, even if it stepped outside generally accepted scientific principles.

The guy's a joke and has done a great disservice to the autism community and those of us who give a rats behind about REAL autism research. This all came out in the trial. Why do you support this fraud? What's in it for you?

Answer 7

Vaccine can cause autism if it is a bad batch which causes severe illness. Any trauma can lead to autism.

The fact that someone becomes autistic at sixteen months is not surprising. ALL infantile autism starts at fourteen to twenty-seven months in babies predisposed whether or not they ever had vaccine. Even a minor stressful incident can lead to autism in a predisposed child. Vaccines that do NOT cause trauma do not cause autism.

Answer 8

The consequences of not getting vaccines are greater. And in fact, thimerosal, the mercury most people blame, doesn't cause autism. it was removed from vaccines in Denmark and Sweden, and yet autism rates still increased. Plus, it's degraded by the body. Not only that, but there isn't even that much thimerosal in vaccines, and few vaccines still have it.

Answer 9

Please read the trial transcripts from June's Vaccine Court wherein Dr Nick Chadwick explains how Wakefield used essentially false-postives (it's actually more complex than that) as "evidence" in the retracted Lancet paper. Wakefield knew the data was wrong and that the PCR work was not done correctly, but he still went ahead with his false premise, because he had a patent on a single measles virus vaccine.

Answer 10

I am a firm believer in this! It just makes sense! Same thing with my child, he was progressing lovely until he recieved his vaccines! In the past they said that Xrays were harmless. Now, studies show they cause cancer! Mark my words, a few years from now the truth will come out- and I hope by then it won't be to late!