Rocky was 49-0 in his career. I know some boxers bigger, but also alot of weak people who don't belong in boxing. Just there for the money. Rocky was talented, unlike some these losers that get into boxing these days. Thoughts???
2007-08-07 08:58:37 · 18 answers · asked by John H 1 in Sports ➔ Boxing
Yes he would do very well. Class will always rise to the top.
2007-08-07 15:11:37 · answer #1 · answered by Bru 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Computer generated boxing match aside....(thats like bringing up an episode of the TRANSFORMERS to argue a point about cars)...there is some validity to both sides.
The problem with the past, is that it is hard to disseminate fact from fiction. Alot of people have historically made Wyatt Earp out to be the bad guy in the shootout in the OK corral (if you actually do the match...The Earp brothers and Doc Holiday had more guns than the other side..one was just released from jail with no gun and another ran, leaving it three against four). So sometimes the fiction is better than the reality.
Here is the reality.
There was no force..ever like Rocky Marciano. He had no brakes...trained like no other...and would not allow himself to get knocked down. He retired THE ONLY heavyweight champion to be undefeated...and exemplified to everyone what clean living and determination can do if you apply it. That is why he is a hero. All of those things are true.
But, these points are also true.
The talent pool in the heavyweight division was much thicker in the sixties..and the seventies, leading all the way to the early eighties....than it was during Rocky's time. This is by no means any reflection on Rocky. I would peg Marciano to punish Ernie Shavers, Jerry Quarry, Ken Norton, or even Joe Frazier. And by that I mean those would be walk thrus....he would take a beating to give a worse one. But here is where reality takes an ugly turn.
People realized, in fighters like Lennox Lewis and Vitali, that you dont have to have a skilled LARGE man to keep a heavyweight crown...he just has to be large. He will always be punching downward on his opponents (force plus gravity caused Tysons demise against Lennox...not Tyson himself)...plus as Emmanuel Steward said himself...if you can teach a big fighter to fight like one...he can use his reach and fight outside all day. The pressure will be on the smaller fighter to get inside.
This is really where it becomes illogical that Marciano could pull off a heavyweight belt. Even the most advocate Marciano fan knows he never fought a 240 lb heavyweight....because you couldnt make fighters that large to fight fifteen rounds. So really there isnt much evidence that he could stand up thru that kind of an attack, just the historical legend that he could stand anything thrown at him.
I say we just respect him for what he did...and stop putting him in situations that arent really relevent. No one will ever really know, and honestly what he achieved is great enough.
2007-08-08 03:30:11 · answer #2 · answered by kieran27 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
He would probably clean house. He was tougher than anyone, he couldn't be hurt, and he could hurt anyone! On a good day, a very small handful of the greatest heavyweights might have beaten him on cuts, or if they pulled a Mayweather, have a slight chance for a decision if it was 12 rounds. Marciano hurt you with every punch he threw, whather it hit you on the arms, hips, gloves, or chin. He never stopped punching, and would eventually tear your body down. No doubt that if pound for pound extended past the heavyweight number, he would be number one all-time becuse no one near his size would have any kind of chance to beat him. People don't understand that Rocky actually matched up very favorably with young Ali because of his low crouching style. You saw some of that results in the first Frazier fight. That is why Rocky won the computer fight against Ali. People who don't really know boxing say Ali's reach and speed would win, but that is not the case. It would take a Foreman or Liston type to get a favorable match-up, and I don't think they had the heart or the chin for it. Tyson would get KO'd in the first round.
2007-08-07 09:42:37 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
The question can't truly be answered. Every generation thinks the heavyweight division is terrible...... I dare you to read boxing magazines from the 30s,40s,50s,60s,70s, 80s, 90s. The heavyweight contenders now are actually quite a good bunch..... but that's another story..... Rocky really didn't have much talent.......... he had a great set of lungs, great heart and a good punch..... he would be a cruiserweight and would be crushed at heavyweight...... I like Rocky but am being honest.
2007-08-07 10:55:04 · answer #4 · answered by MPH 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Heavyweights today are about a foot and 60-70lbs heavier than him. He will never capture the title if he fight in the heavyweight division. If he fight in the cruiser weight division then he can be champion again. I know there are hero worshippers out there who say that size doesn't matter...LOL...if that is the case then why do we have different weight division? Why don't we just put them all together regardless of weight? Even the Great Sugar Ray Robinson can't overcame 15lbs difference and lost to an average Joey Maxim.
2007-08-07 18:13:08 · answer #5 · answered by gannoway 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Rocky Marciano would KO every single Heavy weight currently active today with relative ease. In his prime Holyfield would have given Marciano a fight, much the same as Archie Moore gave Marciano a fight, but in the end there is nobody active today in the heavyweight division that could have handled Marciano in Rock's prime.
2007-08-07 10:48:51 · answer #6 · answered by blogbaba 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
If you are saying today, then he would fare fine. Reason the heavyweight division stinks right now. Holyfield is trying to fight for the title at 44 at the end of the year. Klitchko would be an interesting fight for Rocky just because of his size. If Rocky can take the punishment & get to Klitsko's body then he would get to his head & KO Klitschko.
2007-08-07 09:56:03 · answer #7 · answered by Big E 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think he'd probably fare okay today given the relative weakness of the heavyweight division today. Even at that, though, I believe he wouldn't be an overwhelming favorite even against today's champions.
If Rocky fought in the 1970s, though, I think he would have been fortunate to get a title shot. With guys like Ali, Norton, Frazier and Foreman, I'm sure he would not have retired undefeated. I don't care if a computer program showed him beating Ali - the reality would be much different.
2007-08-07 09:05:07 · answer #8 · answered by Craig S 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋
there is no denying of the impact rocky marciano has made in boxing, but the fact remains that rocky was in the right place at the right time in boxing history. under todays conditions a large majority of rockys fights would be stopped by ringside physicians because rocky was very prone to cuts and rocky was a bleeder. true, he defeated joe louis, jersey joe walcott, ezzard charles, and archie moore, but we never got a chance to see how well rocky would have done against heavyweights like bob satterfield, nino valdes, tommy jackson, zora folley, cleveland williams, eddie machen, floyd patterson, ingemar johansson, and sonny liston.
2007-08-07 09:26:28 · answer #9 · answered by afrolatinomale 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Rocky would have a difficult time remaining undefeated in the heavyweight division today. As great a heavyweight as he was in his era, you must remember that he never weighed more than 186 lbs. and 5'11" tall. That weight would just qualify as a cruiser weight today. By today's standard, a small heavyweight is about 6'2" and 220 lbs.
2007-08-07 09:11:56 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
I can see Rocky having a little trouble with the Klistchko brothers', especially Vitali with that strong chin and huge punching power. All the other heavyweights today wont be so hard for Rock.
2007-08-07 09:46:12 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋