How do you atheists explain all those people who have near death experiences?

Question

I don't mean the people who have near death experiences and see Heaven, I'm talking about all those people who have near death experiences and claim that they didn't see Heaven.

We know that most people who have experiences where they've been deprived of oxygen do not claim to see deceased relatives or old friends, but a small fraction of them do. This small fraction of people is telling the truth about their experiences.

Everybody who comes back and claims they did not see Heaven is lying. Either they are atheists who do not believe in Heaven or they saw Hell and are afraid of telling their heathen friends that Hell is real out of fear of losing their eternal companionship. The proof that those people are lying is the fact that they say they didn't see Heaven. We all know you see Heaven when you die, so if they say they didn't see it they must be lying. How do atheists explain that?

Did anybody read the last paragraph?

Answer 1

I can't believe you said that.....and giving clues away again!

Answer 2

Dont you mean Skeptics? Atheists can beleive in an afterlife too you know. and the tunnel of white light is from the brains natural function of what happens when it shuts down and there is also a natural hallucinigen in our brains. Yet they havent actually linked this to the seeing deceeased loved ones, just the light part so far. There have been scientific tests on this before. I dont think it counts untill theyve seen things they shouldnt know or have been dead for like half an hour at least. A lot of near death experiences happen with people deaf for 2 hours or something sometimes even O_o

Answer 3

Only a small fraction see heaven, but if they didn't see heaven then they are lying because "we all know we see heaven when we die"?
Is that what you are asking?
I don't quite understand the question?
People that see "the light" or "the pearly gates" or whatever have seen what they want to see. Kind of life a dream, your subconscious for a short period of time between consciousness and death can put you in a state like a dream. If your brain understood that you were dying, and your whole life you have envisioned heaven, there is a possibility that your mind shows you what you want to see.

Think of this too, if there was a god, he would know if you were really dying (forever dead). Why would those who were not going to stay dead be shown heaven? As a preview?

Answer 4

How would you know which ones are lying, the ones who claim not to have seen Heaven, or those who claim to have seen it? If you apply the same silly logic as you did to "prove" that those who didn't see Heaven are lying, you could say that nobody really sees it, but the ones who claim to have seen it are lying about it because they're afraid to admit that what they've believed in all their life isn't true.

There is no "fact" in either, just beliefs. No living person KNOWS for a fact what happens after death, we just believe something about it.

And why does this have to be a this OR that thing? We all experience life in different ways. It is just as well possible that we experience death in different ways.

Answer 5

Your details are ignorant as hell, & you should be truly ashamed for being so.

Science has proven that oxygen depletion and/or serious trauma causes hallucinations. A near death experience is common one or both of those situations. You see what you want to believe. If you have faith in your religion, & it will calm you during a traumatic experience, then that is where your mind will bring you.
In other words, *it's a dream*

For example, when my mother was ill, she had a lack of oxygen to her brain due to her diaphragm failing. She had seen a LOT of interesting (& beautifully calming!!) things, such as an Angel discussing her situation with her.

The human mind is a very interesting thing. Perhaps you should put the Bible down & take up a psychology course ~ it may help you understand yourself & those in the world around you a whole lot better!!

Answer 6

"We all know you see Heaven when you die" - do we? how do you know that? please provide proof.

"Everybody who comes back and claims they did not see Heaven is lying" - a preposterous and totally unsupported statement. I suggest you check the libel laws in your country before making such statements about any named individual because there's no way that you will be able to support or prove such an idiotic assertion.

No-one who has actually died has EVER related what happened after they died because dead people don't talk. All we have is a collection of anecdotes from people who NEARLY died - people who were in the most extreme of medical circumstances, often dosed with drugs, deprived of oxygen, suffering trauma, loss of blood, or a whole range of other circumstances which would not make them very reliable witnesses.

Often in such circumstances people see (or believe they see) exactly what they expect to see. Others will see dream-like images generated by random firing of nerve cells as they start to shut down or are deprived of oxygen or energy.

My mother had a near-death experience when she was age 7 and suffering from Scarlet Fever. It was during the war (1940 in London) and she was too ill even to be moved to an air-raid shelter. Later she reported simply seeing some bright flashing lights - hardly heaven or hell and more likely to be nearby anti-aircraft guns being fired. She was a devout christian at the time. Are you calling my mother a liar?

Answer 7

The mind is still a mystery to science, as well as being more complex than we can understand at the moment. We think different things, see different things. Why do you think of puppies and kittens when you see a field while I see soldiers marching while looking at the same field?

"This small fraction of people is telling the truth about their experiences." --- What reason do we have to trust what they say?

"...their heathen friends" --- That is some nerve to call atheists, heathens.

Answer 8

How can you say that EVERY PERSON who claims nothing happened to them is lying, and NOT A SINGLE PERSON who saw something isn't?

And yeah, when the brain is deprived of oxygen, people often hallucinate. Common hallucinations include passing through tunnels of light, and seeing familiar people, including dead relatives. You can recreate this phenomenon in a laboratory.

Yet another former mystery solved by science.

Answer 9

"We know that most people who have experiences where they've been deprived of oxygen do not claim to see deceased relatives or old friends, but a small fraction of them do. This small fraction of people is telling the truth about their experiences. "

Your entire question falls flat here.
Prove this first.

Answer 10

"Everybody who comes back and claims they did not see Heaven is lying...The proof that those people are lying is the fact that they say they didn't see Heaven. We all know you see Heaven when you die, so if they say they didn't see it they must be lying."

this is circular logic, don't you see?

even if it wasn't, how do you personally know that every single one of those people is lying???

Answer 11

Actually I had a near death experience when I was 5 years old. I drowned and they thought I was dead. I didnt see a thing and I was a baptist at the time, I had been baptized and had accepted god. Now at 31 I am a non religion person wonder why??

I read the last paragraph who are you to call me as a 5 year old innocent child at the time a liar?? I did not see anything. Come to think of it my niece was clinically dead once (long story) she said she did not see anything and she is a baptist.