God commanded, "Though shall not commit murder"!
and don't give me the argument that it's not a baby yet because it can't survive outside the mother's womb, because that's just an invalid rationalization.
how is it possible that you can neglect that commandment whenever it suits you?
NOTE: this question is strictly for people who claim they are Christians yet are pro-abortion.
I ask this question because I am shocked in how some people claiming to be Christians condone abortion here in this question that someone posted: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjC3FBzQY6Zh6PAI2z8EEcPsy6IX?qid=20070807063042AAzeAyS&show=7#profile-info-zcDBGVXzaa
atheists, please don't answer, or people from different faith. as I have said, this question is STRICTLY for people claiming to be Christians who are pro-abortion.
2007-08-07
03:04:19
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pro-choice concerning a baby's life? your only option is to let it live, otherwise you're committing murder regardless of what the reason is. don't play words with me because nothing can justify murder!
2007-08-07
03:11:20 ·
update #1
Karol, talking to feminists like you is futile. you think it's all about you and your gender.
2007-08-07
03:12:32 ·
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wow, you really can justify anything with your claim of once saved is forever saved. ridiculous!
2007-08-07
03:17:35 ·
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Philip C, do you have to have everything spell out for you? I just mentioned the commandment that God gave to people, "Thou shall not commit murder"! you're so slow.
2007-08-07
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Your question is a good one. Obviously you upset the pro-abortionists among us.
I am in a unique position here. I am pro-life and yet I have had two abortions.
In my life many years ago, I fell prey to the feminist idea that "it's my body and I can do what I want with it." So, when I left my husband and began seeing another man I got pregnant...he didn't want the baby (I had two children and so did he). So...very conveniently I had an abortion. Just wipe the problem away right? I went to Planned Parenthood...it was a very dull experience (that the best word I can think of). All the people I dealt with were dull, seemed bored with it all. I was taken into a room, the doctor came in and sucked the baby out of me. The canister was right there...and I saw what I knew was my child in a glass canister. I began to cry uncontrollably. The doctor just slipped out...never said a word to me. I laid on the table and cried and cried for my child. I had killed my own baby. As horrible as it was for me...yup I got pregnant again by the same man. I wanted the baby...I was adamant...he did not. He said no, he wanted me to have another abortion. I cried and pleaded but ultimately I felt I had no choice (funny since it's called pro-choice). I scheduled another abortion. This time he paid extra so I could be put to sleep. I went in pregnant and came out un-pregnant.
It's been almost 20 years and I still suffer. If it was my right, my choice...why do I hurt when I think of the children I killed? The safest place in the world should be with your mother and we've turned it into the most dangerous place in this world. More children are killed in the womb each year then any other place.
To say it's not a child yet is ludicrous. It cannot survive outside the womb yet, but this in no way makes it less of a human being. God designed us this way, he designed that each of us would spend the first 9 months (or so) of our lives being nourished in the safety of our mother's womb.
I would give anything to have the chance to undo what I've done. I wonder about those two children...who would they be? What would they do? One thing I know for sure...they would be two people I would love with all my heart. They would be two people I could not imagine life without. How is it that I not only robbed them of their life...I robbed my life of them?
It's not a choice! Abortion is murder, plain and simple. There is not other way to look at it. All the fancy wording and feminist twisting cannot change that fact. You all are fooling yourselves. Sadly, I know from experience!
My right to choose was not to have an affair. Not to have sex outside of marriage when I wasn't prepared to bring a child into the world.
99% of abortions are for convenience. Pro-abortionists always throw the rape/incest card out there as if this can somehow make it okay to kill children. I have read many stories of women who were raped and kept their children...guess what...they found healing in this. They love those kids...they were a part of these women getting over what happened to them. Why does no one even consider that this could be a good thing that comes out of a horrible thing? Why is the baby looked at as if it must be killed lest the woman be reminded of what happend to her? The baby had no choice in it's conception. Killing it only creates another victim. So very sad.
2007-08-07 09:09:31
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answered by Misty 7
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I find it interesting that your use of the term "pro-abortion" is offending people; pro-choice sounds ever so much nicer, doesn't it? Nobody wants to abort? No? They certainly seem to want the right to do so anyway, just in case, for any reason. Therefore, you've called it correctly and obviously struck a nerve.
"Right to choose" is a euphemism for "right to get an abortion when contraception fails or isn't used". But you'll never hear a politician standing up and expressing it in those terms.
You're also getting the old what-ifs: What if she's a child who was raped, what if, what if, what if. There is a vast difference between real medical necessity and personal convenience. Actual cases like this are so uncommon as to be statistically insignificant. But expect to be vilified on these specious grounds anyway; it's a common tactic.
One person's rights end where another's begin, and that includes persons who are not yet born. If I had a "right to choose", then so did the daughter in my womb.
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Misty, below: Thank you. This entire "choice" argument should come to a skidding halt with your post. The respect I already had for you has increased tenfold.
2007-08-07 03:34:02
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answered by Clare † 5
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Jehovah's Witnesses, while I disagree with them, have a point about government and being its own "religion" in the way that abortion is "okay." And, while I believe the government is wrong like the Jehovah's Witnesses, if other people believe different things about a "bottom line" with life and the taking of it, it's not my place to mandate how the people of my country will believe. Jehovah's Witnesses refuse blood transfusions, should we make them submit to them? My answer is no, let them conduct their lives the way they want, but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord and will make the choice of not having an abortion.
I feel the same way about gay marriage. Who cares what the State says or does? No, I don't care to see Bob kissing Bruce goodbye in the doorway when I pick him up to go golfing with him, but that's his life, not mine. And I'll probably vote against it when the issue comes up on the ballot, simply because not to decide is to decide, and I'd rather have a country that bends a little bit more toward my religion than away from it. But I really don't care what Bob and Bruce do, and if someone wants to get an abortion, let them deal with their own resolution to the pain that comes with that kind of decision. There is only so much that I care to see mandated in other people's lives. That's what freedom is all about.
2007-08-07 03:28:53
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answered by ccrider 7
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How is it an invalid rationalization? Because you said so? I honestly do not believe that it is a baby at such stage of gestation in which it cannot live outside the mother's womb. Not that it is a free for all if someone gets pregnant, just go ahead and abort all day long! It is not so black or white. There are many factors to consider. Moreover, an abortion does have consequences, as does having a baby that will die shortly after birth anyway, or risking a delivery that will kill both mother and baby, or risking abuse from a family that is dishonored at the pregnancy of their daughter. This is why it is a choice. Including the choice to keep the baby. It is faith versus faith in this matter and the fact of the matter is that not everyone shares such a belief of personhood vs nonpersonhood, so it should not be legislated. Every baby should be a wanted baby. I know several people who I believe should have been aborted, compared to the horrible, vicious life of abuse they have had to bear from their introduction into the world, with no remedy or assistance from anyone who wanted so hard for them to be born. I can see now that their children are already suffering the same fate they did. It will be a cycle for generations. How many more have to suffer for a remote possibility that one might just turn out ok? I am more shocked at people who crusade against abortion then turn a blind eye when children starve or are abused. If this is a contradiction then let GOD judge me for it.
2007-08-07 03:19:52
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answered by buscadora78 2
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I do not disagree that abortion is a sin. Where I think you are in error is in saying that some one who sins cannot be a Christian.
Is some one a Christian because they live a righteous life by God's Law, or is some one a Christian because they trust in God's provision for their sin? We are saved by God's grace through the payment of Jesus' blood, not by our own inadequate efforts to live a good life.
Is murder an unforgivable sin? It never says that in the Bible! David was a murderer, and yet he was a man after God's own heart, in spite of his sins.
People are at different places along the journey of sanctification. We grow at different rates of speed in different areas. Some one could be very wounded and weak in one area, and yet strong in another area where another person is weak.
Is a person not a Christian simply because they are not strong in the same areas as you? What if they judged you to be not a Christian because you might be weak in areas where they are strong?
Argue the issue in which you disagree with them, or better yet, pray for them first; but to write them off as non-Christians because they don't match up with you...well, I think that's a pretty unloving attitude to take. You don't know what things other Christians might have experienced that have shaped their beliefs, emotions, and opinions about issues. It's so easy to judge by outward appearances, but God sees the heart.
God, if you recall, is particularly big on caring about other people. When Jesus was physically present on earth, His harshest words were reserved for the religious folk who thought they were "in" and the sinners were "out." They could see and judge the outer sins of other people, but they were blind to the hardness of their own hearts that excluded others due to their lack of understanding and compassion.
Can a person believe something is okay, when actually it is sinful, yet still be a Christian? Can a person commit a serious sin and still be a Christian?
The answer lies in your comprehension of what it means to be a Christian. Is it to live up to certain standards, living a life good enough to earn your way into heaven, or is it resting solely and completely on God's finished work on the cross, trusting in His blood to wash us whiter than snow?
How sure are you that you're a Christian, and what is the basis for that belief? If it's based on how good a life you think you lead, I think you need to seek God for an answer with more assurance than that.
2007-08-07 21:24:09
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answered by Rella 6
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You stated that you only wanted people claiming to be Christians who were "pro-abortion" to answer your question. I am sorry that I am violating your request as I am a "pro-life" Christian. However, I feel compelled to respond!
Call abortion what you will, but it is always spelled the same...
M U R D E R
Kidd!
2007-08-07 16:09:39
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answered by Kidd! 6
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great question
I give you a star.
I have read your responses.Almost all pro-abortionist that answered were offended that you called them pro-abortionists.
Lets look at how complex this is:
they are for (which is pro)
a brutal & murderous act( toward unborn millions of babies (no matter the meathod) called abortion.
pro + abortion = pro-abortion.
how can it be said that a person only "accepts" something (but not pro).
2007-08-07 15:49:48
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answered by robert p 7
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They can claim to be a Christian in the hopes that Jesus Christ has covered there sins. However, supporting abortion is supporting a sin, murder in-fact, and I do believe that sin will have its consequences.
2007-08-07 16:44:59
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answered by arikinder 6
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Good for you. And I'm glad that you call abortionists what they are, "pro-abortion." Calling themselves "pro-choice" is the true misnomer here. It would be much more accurate to call pro-lifers, "pro-choice." In 99% of the cases people have the choice of whether or not to have sex. But instead of learning how to control themselves they'd rather indulge their lust and commit murder in order to cover up their mistake. Abortion is almost always used as a contraceptive after the fact, not for the exceptions people love to point out. For the other one percent, rape and incest are not justifications for murder...I hate to say it, but if not killing the child is that much of a burden then give it up for adoption.
For the person above me (nurse betty)...what are you talking about? Then why isn't murder legal? There is a reason why we're not "free to choose" to kill someone else!!!!
2007-08-07 03:27:32
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answered by Thom 5
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Pro abortion people can't be Christian nor can they be jews
If they think they are like that WHore hilary clinton then they will be judged by god
2007-08-07 07:34:15
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answered by Anonymous
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