Jesus died on the cross for the sins of the Romans, Judas, Disciples, others....and us?

Question

I don't understand how He died for our sins now. This seems too easy of an excuse for people that have sinful lives now.
Romans...and others i can understand....they wanted Him dead.
Judas...betrayed Him...so yes.
The Disciples...fail to recognized Him, when the Romans asked if they knew Him..so i can understand how they sinned.
but for us...2000 years later...He died because some rape, kills, or etc...now? Please help me understand this.
I do understand that He was very loving.
But when He said 'I forgive You'...couldn't He have meant that He was forgiving the disciples, Judas..Romans..etc...and then the Disciples..changed it into..'Forgiving all of mankind for their Sins?''...or it just got distorted in interpretation?....When the disciples were telling people that He died for our sins...they actually meant..that Jesus died because of the sins of the Disciples...could this be so...?

Answer 1

Basically, the reason Jesus had to die for our sins was so that we could be forgiven and go to be with the Lord. Jesus is God in flesh (John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9) and only God can satisfy the Law requirements of a perfect life and perfect sacrifice that cleanses us of our sins.
All people have sinned against God. But, God is infinitely holy and righteous. He must punish the sinner, the Law breaker. If He didn't, then His law is not law for there is no law that is a law without a punishment. The punishment for breaking the Law is death, separation from God. Therefore, we sinners need a way to escape the righteous judgment of God. Since we are stained by sin and cannot keep the Law of God, then the only one who could do what we cannot is God Himself. That is why Jesus is God in flesh. He is both divine and human. He was made under the Law (Gal. 4:5-6) and He fulfilled it perfectly. Therefore, His sacrifice to God the Father on our behalf is of infinite value and is sufficient to cleanse all people from their sins and undo the offense to God.
The following outline is an attempt to break this down, step by step, using scripture and logic. I hope that it helps you understand why God is our savior and not some created thing. Also, I hope that it helps you understand that you must trust in Christ alone for the forgiveness of your sins; that you can do nothing on your own to merit salvation from God.

God exists.
Gen. 1:1, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
God is infinite
Psalm 90:2, "Before the mountains were born, Or Thou didst give birth to the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, Thou art God."
Psalm 147:5, "Great is our Lord, and abundant in strength; His understanding is infinite."

Jer. 23:24, "Can a man hide himself in hiding places, So I do not see him?” declares the Lord. “Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?” declares the Lord."

God is holy
Isaiah 6:3, "And one called out to another and said, “Holy, Holy, Holy, is the Lord of hosts, The whole earth is full of His glory.”
Rev. 4:8 "And the four living creatures, each one of them having six wings, are full of eyes around and within; and day and night they do not cease to say, "Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord God, the Almighty, who was and who is and who is to come."
God is righteous
Neh. 9:32-33, "Now therefore, our God, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who dost keep covenant and lovingkindness, Do not let all the hardship seem insignificant before Thee, Which has come upon us, our kings, our princes, our priests, our prophets, our fathers, and on all Thy people, From the days of the kings of Assyria to this day. 33“However, Thou art just in all that has come upon us."
2 Thess. 1:6, "For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you."
Therefore, God is infinitely holy and just.
Furthermore, God speaks out of the character of what He is.
Matt. 12:34, "...For the mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart."
God spoke the Law
Exodus 20:1-17, "Then God spoke all these words, saying, 2“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. 3 “You shall have no other gods before Me...."
Therefore, the Law is in the heart of God and is a reflection of God's character since it is Holy and good.
Rom. 7:12, "So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good."
Furthermore, to break the Law of God is to offend Him since it is His Law that we break. This sin results in an infinite offense because God is infinite.
Furthermore, it is also right that God punish the Law breaker. To not punish the Law breaker (sinner) is to allow an offense against His holiness to be ignored.
Amos 2:4, "Thus says the Lord, “For three transgressions of Judah and for four I will not revoke its punishment, because they rejected the law of the Lord And have not kept His statutes."
Rom. 4:15, "...for the Law brings about wrath."
God says that the person who sins must die (be punished). The wages of sin is death.
Ezekiel 18:4, "Behold, all souls are Mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is Mine. The soul who sins will die."
Rom. 6:23, "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
The sinner needs to escape the righteous judgment of God or he will face damnation.
Rom. 1:18, "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness."
Matt. 25:46, "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
But, no sinner can undo an infinite offense since to please God and make things right, he must obey the Law, which is the standard of God's righteous. character.
Gal. 2:16, "...by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified."
Gal. 2:21, "I do not nullify the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly."
But the sinner cannot fulfill the law because he is sinful (in the flesh).
Rom. 8:3, "For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son..."
Since the sinner cannot fulfill the law and satisfy God, it follows that only God can do this.
This is simple logic. If we are unable to fulfill the Law, then we will be punished by it. But, since God desires us to be saved, the Law must be satisfied. Since we cannot keep the Law and it must be satisfied, then the only one capable of keeping the Law must keep the Law: God.
Jesus is God in flesh.
John 1:1,14, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....14And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."
Col. 2:9, "For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form."
Jesus was also a man under the Law.
1 Tim. 2:5, "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."
Gal. 4:5-6, "But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, 5in order that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons."
Jesus became sin for us and bore our sins in His body on the cross, thus fulfilling the Law.
2 Cor. 5:21, "He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him."
1 Peter 2:24, "and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed."
Rom. 8:3-4, "For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh. 4in order that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit."
Therefore, salvation is by grace through faith since it was not by our keeping the Law, but by Jesus, God in flesh, who fulfilled the Law and died in our place.
Eph. 2:8-9, "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, that no one should boast."
Gal. 3:13, "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us—for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree."
Eph. 5:2, "and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you, and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma."

Answer 2

God made a Covenant with Abraham. It is commonly called a convenant of the parts and was a pretty normal thing at the time. Abraham cut a few animals in half and places them on either side along with a couple of birds. Now this covenant works like this. The two parties walk through the midst of the animals and say I agree to do this and if I don't may what happened to these animals be done to me. Abraham did not pass through the parts because God put him into a slumber. Only God passed through. Abraham though the father of faith failed to keep the covenant faithfully. God ratified the covenant with Israel at Sinai, Same covenant by the way if you look at the language just enlarged to include a nation and not just a man. Israel said "We will obey". They didn't. Both Abraham and the children of Israel and by extention everyone of us because the covenant was also extended to a mixed multidude who also said "I will obey" did not live up to our end of the covenant. We have all sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Because Abraham, The father of the faithful, did not walk through the parts, God took it upon himself to die a horrible death to pay the death penalty for our sins. He, through the word made manifest in the person of Yahshua, took the wraith and punishment we all deserve and so since the penalty has been paid the sin is removed. We start with a clean slate. This is how God planned it from the beginning knowing that his people would fail and being a merciful God and not willing that any should perish took our punishment for us to reconcile us to him. And hey you did spell it wrong but it was funny. I thought it was intentional till you got all nasty and defensive about it. Edit - Yet another fine example of the loving caring tolerant morally superior atheist. Thank you for your fine example. You confirm what we truly know about your morals. And you guys call us hypocrites. Edit 2 - You are a foul mouth little ape aren't you. Here have a banana and go back to your lair and scratch yourself.

Answer 3

If the disciples thought that Jesus died only for THEIR sins, then they wouldn't have gone out to spread the good news. They would have slapped each other on the back, breathed a sigh of relief because their sins were forgiven, and gone back to work.

I think Jesus died not so much for our sins, as for our attention. He died, and was resurrected, to prove to all humanity that his father, God, had power over life and death.

The “blood sacrifice” of Christ wasn’t as important to the disciples as the resurrection. He died, and they hid, they thought they were next. Christ was resurrected, and appeared to them, and they responded, because THEN they understood.

Christ died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again.

Christ was an example to the people he met, and the stories of what he did are examples today. The way the spirit of Christ works in the world today, continues to be an example.

Don’t worry so much about the fact that a day-laborer was executed by the government. That’s the fact of what happened. Focus on the fact that that man was a living God, who transcended the grave to return to the world, and who’s spirit is in people today.

Christ died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again.

Godspeed.

Answer 4

Jesus died for all sin, past present and future. All are born into sin. It entered the world through Adam, the first man. The wages of sin is death, so through the first man, Adam, death entered into the world.
Through Jesus' death on the cross, life entered into the world. Forgiveness of sin made possible by the atonement, which was by the Blood of Christ. A way back to the Father.

Answer 5

the Bible teaches that Jesus died for the sins of all mankind. He was sent to earth specifically to take our sins upon himself and for that reason alone. I understand it is a difficult concept as most people need definitive proof, but belief is about faith. If you believe in God, you believe in Jesus, then you must believe that God would not allow his Word, the Bible, to be changed in meaning or message. Of course, it could be that the disciples changed the meaning as you suggest, but if you have faith, you have to believe God would not allow this to happen.

Yes, many people use Jesus as an excuse to live however they want and hey, I can repent and all will be forgiven. God does not teach that. He teaches that you must truly be repentant to be forgiven. He teaches that you must do your best NOT to sin. He teaches to live as Jesus did, a sinless life..though of course this is not possbile for mere humans. We can only do our best. But all of this has to be taken on Faith. I cannot give you a concrete answer, I do not have proof, I just know that I am forgiven, and I know this by having a relationship with God.

Answer 6

The Romans crucified Jesus because the public said that a
murderer's life should be spared and christ is the one that should die. He died for our sins by what he did the night before in the garden of Gethsemine... he bled from every pore in his body which represented all of our sins. now today when we take the sacrament, the bread represents his body and the water, wine, etc represents his blood. when we partake of the sacrament we are renewing our covenant w/ god and christ and reconizing our sins... that way we can repent later. and when we are baptized we are washed clean of all our sins up to that time, then after that we have to recognize what we have done..

hope that helped.

Answer 7

Yeah it's pretty tough to comprehend what Jesus exactly did for us, but He lived a life, perfect, guiltless and free of sin so that He would be the perfect blameless sacrifice for mankind, on which all sin could be place on Him. Literally, because Jesus lived a perfect life, He was made sin so that we, mankind, could be free of it in the past, the present and future. Remember that God so loved the WORLD, the past present and future world, literally all mankind. Therefore He died not for a few select people, but He died for the WORLD that we might come to know that He gave His life in our place of going to Hell. Yet Jesus Himself defeated hell, meaning having lived a perfect life and becoming sin went to hell blames, and therefore hell could not contain Him. That is why brother or sister we can be forgiven our sins through Jesus that you would know He died for the World including you!

Answer 8

Jesus died for the sins of His people, His sheep. When it is written that "Jesus died for our sins", it is a reference to the Church, His people.

Joh 10:11 I am the Good Shepherd! The Good Shepherd lays down His life on behalf of the sheep.

Joh 10:15 Even as the Father knows Me, I also know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.

Joh 10:26 But you do not believe for you are not of My sheep, as I said to you.
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
Joh 10:28 And I give eternal life to them, and they shall not perish to the age, never! And not anyone shall pluck them out of My hand.

Heb 2:17 For this reason He ought by all means to become like His brothers, that He might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the things respecting God, in order to make propitiation for the sins of His people.

Answer 9

Jesus died for our sins in order to give us a choice. There needed to be a sacrifice for the sin of all mankind and Jesus was the only perfect being who never sinned. His blood was pure and covered us. Now whoever believes that jesus died for our sins and rose again from the dead shall have everlasting life.

"For god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosever believeth in him shall not persish but have everlasting life"

Answer 10

The first animal sacrifice for sin was when God made clothes for Adam and Eve out of animal hides. Since then God demanded animal sacrifices for the forgiveness of sin. Jesus was the final sacrifice for our sins. This does not mean that we no longer commit sins it just means we no longer have to make animal sacrifices to God. We are able now to ask God to forgive our sins through his son Jesus.

Answer 11

Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice. Under OT covenant, people sacrificed their best animals on a regular basis. In doing so, they better understood the importance of putting God first. When Jesus came, it was like God saying, "You've given your best all these years, now I'm giving My Best." Jesus' blood covered all sins of all time because He was perfect.