Theists...JUSTIFY HELL?

Question

I'm not that bad a person, but I don't believe in "God". Now, if the pope or a rabbi or a sheik took a cell sample from me, bound and gagged me, and poured petrol on me and set me on fire and then kicked me while I burned to death it would be generally considered an abomination. If he then took the cells from, and repeatedly created clones of me, and bound and burned each of them even psychopaths would shudded. If he then invented a time machine that whould allow him to repeat the process for ever and ever, well I don't know but the thought makes me sad. Even if I had commited the worst crime imaginable, surely I would deserve better than being burned just once - or atleast YOUR humanity would demand that? So what are we to make of "God"? How is hell justified?

SDW... read your answers. Thanks but no thenks. If I were to lose by forsaking "God" it should be demonstrable over this or a numnber of lives, so that the "god effect" id=s clear. AFAIK I can't detect that effect. It would therefore be unfair of IT to subject me to torment based on and uninfprmed decision I made.

Answer 1

A vivid portrayal, if brutal. You'll likely get "You choose it" from the most fervent believers. And it's not going to cut the mustard given this example. Star for you.

Answer 2

Justify hell?
Sure...you gotta bury a dead body somewhere.
Justify the scenario you described?
Why? Because some rabid "Christians" think so?
Almost every Christian with a tenth of a brain knows that the word translated "hell" in the Bible, both in OT and NT, means "grave"...nothing more, nothing less.
Surely, every Christian with even a couple of brain cells KNOWS that "death and hell" are scheduled, according to Revelation, to be tossed into the Lake of Fire, "where the beast and the false prophet are."
A few even know that brimstone is actually sulfur, and even that sulfur cannot be stopped until it has completely consumed and destroyed whatever it is set to burn.
So, I don't get the confusion, unless it is just a human need for revenge...they want to see sinners punished, not realizing that none of us, no not one, is exempt...we are ALL of us sinners...

So, to clarify. "Hell" is the grave...where your body decomposes while your spirit sleeps. When you are resurrected, you will be judged according to what you have done in your life. If you are found to be truly "evil" you will get tossed into the Lake of Fire, where you will become a rapidly disappearing grease spot. Bad enough, I suppose, but we have to understand that not everyone will be able to live in a Kingdom of Peace...not everyone would want to. Some are too proud of their control over other people...some too fond of being more wealthy, or better, in some way, than others. Truly living in a Kingdom where everyone is equal would be miserable for them...and they would soon make it as bad as they have done in this world...worse, since this time it is eternal.
Then, too, some are downright sadistic. Obviously they would not fit in.
But the majority, I believe, will be OK. I don't really believe that most people are "truly evil"...
But then, I am known to be rather naive...

Answer 3

I am a theist...but I don't believe in hell.

My take is this: The Goddess is a Mother. Like all mothers, She wants what's best for her children. She has already set up a system whereby our good choices are reinforced and our bad ones have consequences. She doesn't NEED to set up eternal punishment after death--it would be counterproductive. We wouldn't learn anything or become better people for it.

Hell was invented by a patriarchal system that tries to tell us that we are inherently evil and uses the FEAR of hell coupled with the promise of heaven to try to control us ("Do as I say, or else.")

I believe that there are plenty of reasons to be a good person, without resorting to threats of eternal torture.

Answer 4

nicely, what am i able to assert? The fundamentalists savor their bake sales, yet they are in a position to't save their head off of what 2 people of an identical intercourse ought to do of their mattress room. each and every now and then I swear that's a sexual obsession on their area, rewritten in some unusual religious way. Take Jerry Falwell died from a heart attack after chowing on a William Maxwell Aitken and egg breakfast, even nevertheless he replaced into very obese and providers to cardiac issues. Falwell called the separation of church and state a gadget of "devil" and replaced into between the main stressful fighters of rules granting homosexuals equivalent rights. not that i think the two homosexuals or fat actual everyone seems to be going to hell. i'm not religious. yet one team is statistically going to die earlier yet another team, and it is not the persons maximum church homes are specializing in...

Answer 5

they can't justify it matey because it doesn't exist - it was made up by the church to put fear into people and just to make sure they would be suitably terrified they burnt people at the stake and made the others watch . you know and i know (I'm sure the church knows it too) that there is no such thing as god or hell but if they were to admit it all the believers would know that they had been lied too all these centuries there's a lot of money at stake here - they are the wealthiest body on the planet after all - the best we can hope for is that some how some way the masses will learn the truth .

Answer 6

Hell is justified because it was never intended for man. The bible shows that Hell was created for the devil and his angels in which they are awaiting their judgement. It wasnt until the sin of man that he had lost the eternal life that he had and opened up physical and spiritual death to himself. I never see why people always act as if Hell is the end of things its not. Jesus Christ came to save all men that if they would believe and ask forgiveness of their sins they would not have to suffer the wrath of God. We are sinners friend and need a savior and that savior is Jesus wont you accept him today.

Answer 7

It doesn't have anything directly to do with being a good or bad person. Hell is a place for those who reject God and don't want God to be present.

Heaven is not the reward, nor is hell the punishment. God Himself is the reward and heaven is just a place to be with God. Hell is a place for those who choose to be without God.

Answer 8

If you're God you don't have to justify it. You just say get in there and burn you bad bad man and then sit back and watch those suckers fry. I know it seems a bit harsh but that's just the way it is.

Answer 9

Older manuscripts and codeces show the hellfire doctrine to be unscriptural.

Gehenna, the lake of fire and Tartarus was changed to hellfire in later Bibles which changed the message concerning those three places.
It was a way to keep people attending mass. A fear tactic.

True christians do not believe in hellfire.

Answer 10

Wow, that's not what hell is. But nice try. Hell is simply separation from God. The lake of fire is reserved for Satan and his antichrist alone.

Answer 11

Um, I think those people that would do this to you and your clones would end up in hell.

Faith and good works gains you life in Heaven. 100% faith, not 90% or 62% or 5%. If during your dying days you freely choose to believe, God kows what is in your heart. You would go to Purgatory to be purified of your earthly sins then go to Heaven. We have no idea who is in hell or Heaven right now. I think majority are in Purgatory for purification.