Do you think serving in the Military would prove allegiance to our country?

Question

What about illegals serving?Would that prove they love America?

Let me clarify...Serving in OUR military fighting for OUR country.

The LAW of our land says if you serve you get citizenship.So what is the answer?

Thank you for the link Spider Pig.That should prove they CAN and DO serve.God Bless Them.

Answer 1

there are about 33,000 servicemen serving that are foreign born since the war on terror began....what would the armed forces be without them?

I would like to see some of the people on this board telling them face to face that they dont appreciate their service

http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/MilitaryNatz080107.pdf
Qualifications
"A member of the U.S. Armed Forces must meet certain requirements and qualifications to become a citizen of the United States. This includes demonstrating:
􀂃 Good moral character;
􀂃 Knowledge of the English language;
􀂃 Knowledge of U.S. government and history (civics); and
􀂃 Attachment to the United States by taking an Oath of Allegiance to the U.S. Constitution.
>>Qualified members of the U.S. Armed Forces are exempt from other naturalization requirements, including residency and physical presence in the United States.<< These exceptions are listed in Sections 328 and 329 of the INA.
An individual who obtains U.S. citizenship through his or her military service and separates from the military under “other than honorable conditions” before completing five years of honorable service may have his or her citizenship revoked."

exact quote from USCIS
can someone clarify that they have to show residency to join the armed forces?


-TJ- you need to shut your stupid *** 15 year old mouth...you dont know crap...
"It's all the stupid bleeding hearts like you that make this country a horrible place." That bleeding heart liberal has 2 kids that are currently serving overseas...

DO YOU PAY TAXES YET? HOW WOULD YOU KNOW WHATS GOOD FOR THE ARMY WHEN YOU ARE NOT EVEN OLD ENOUGH TO JOIN?

Answer 2

Generally I am against foreigners serving in our military. As with a properly constructed Dream Act, I would be ok with it for those 'truly American' kids brought young and with loyalties here, but NOT on a going forward basis. Many join the military for college benefits and training. Nothing proves loyalty to this country from that. The ZETAS were trained by us in our military, and now they protect the drug cartels. I think we'd have to tailor this properly.

Answer 3

(Stan P said: )
" We have no illegals serving in the military unless they lied about their eligibility to be here. What makes anyone think that they wouldn't lie or cheat anywhere else, either?

Lawful permanent residents may serve, and they can get citizenship expedited for doing so. This does NOT apply to illegals, as mentioned above.

***** Illegality breeds illegality ***** "



(my answer: )
I was going to say that, but dammit, you beat me to it !
:)

You're exactly right. Those who already have temporary legal residence in the U.S. can earn permanent residence through military service.

But U.S. military service doesn't necessarily prove loyalty to the U.S.

One problem I saw raised in an interview with one of the Pentagon generals is that some muslims who have served in our military, on discharge, have gone to teach our military techniques to Al Qaida.
They are doing their best to reform admission policy, and weed out such applicants for service.

Answer 4

No, we are a country of laws, and what would it be said about us when we allowed those who flaunted our laws to become indentured citizens. What would happen to those that came and they were unable to serve, would they also be allowed to stay. Each time we allow the illegally to have an exception we only encourage more to come, why should they not, knowing that we will have exceptions for many. The main reason is that we as a country need to fight our own battles without relying on foreigners to do it.

Answer 5

I just think we need to be careful for our troops, My husband served in the Army and I live near the Atlantic Fleet and 3 other major military instillation's so I have many friends in Iraq and Afghanistan and many more friends waiting to be deployed yet again, their safety is my main concern as I know it is yours. Its a very hard question for me to answer honestly.

OTM's are my main concern, I am sure many if not most are harmless but we must always make sure we look after our troops... Very hard question to answer.

Answer 6

No. It wouldn't prove anything. Besides, they're really not the kind to fight in a military. One day at war and they would be gone. They're really the more working and merchant type that likes to make money and then that's it for them. Anybody could enter the military and claim that they love their country, but if you are the one that can beat all the rest and actually work and try to be a good soldier, then that might do it. I don't really trust and illegal in the military, cause they're not really educated on anything and they don't shoot a lot of guns in Mexico.
It's all the stupid bleeding hearts like you that make this country a horrible place. Can you not understand that they are destroying our land by littering and making trailor parks everywhere and that they are causing the children of America to fail schools and hold them back from learning and all of that. Also, they are ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are breaking the law even being here. So that is that.

Answer 7

No, Muslims from other countries could join our military in order to spy on us. This has already happend. Also, they could kill our soldiers. This has happened with an American Muslim who killed his fellow soldiers. Do you really want these illegal aliens serving in our military? Who is to say that they won't run when the fight gets bad, or shoot their officiers in the back!

Most of them can't speak or write English, so they are not qualified to serve.

Answer 8

Being in this country is a privilege. EVERYONE should serve at least 2 years, and if that is too much for them, then gtfo. Why should so few have to carry the burden for the sloven masses who demand everything and give NOTHING.

Answer 9

Illegals becoming legal... you know, following the law of the land... showing a commitment by following the law of the land... that would prove it to me.

Otherwise, they're no better than any other lawbreaker looking for a way to live "above the law."

EDIT:
The law of the land is that you go through the process to become legal. If serving in the military causes them to become legal, then that's what it is... a PROCESS to become legal.

NO, it does NOT prove that they love our country. It proves that they are willing to take an easy route to become legal. And that's just fan-damn-tastic! Welcome aboard!

But note the fine line... it DOES NOT prove love or loyalty over and/or above those who choose not to serve, but still go through the slow process of becoming legal citizens.

Answer 10

Since the army has been failing to meet their quotas, they are asking that the illegals who want to serve this country be granted to do so. And those who want to are in line waiting to hear a resounding yes to be able to do so.

Answer 11

We have no illegals serving in the military unless they lied about their eligibility to be here. What makes anyone think that they wouldn't lie or cheat anywhere else, either?

Lawful permanent residents may serve, and they can get citizenship expedited for doing so. This does NOT apply to illegals, as mentioned above.

***** Illegality breeds illegality *****