Have you ever had an experience so profound…?

Question

…that you don’t want to attempt to explain it because you know that by trying to define it you limit it?

You're forever changed but the extent is beyond your vocabulary so you just sit in stunned silence wishing everyone could know what you know.

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NBM The stages you mention...
What does it mean if you go back and forth between two stages? I admit fear and it wouldn't be the first time I've been my own obstacle although the entire world participates. I guess when the time comes the entire world participates as well.

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Answer 1

What you and others above refer to is either the first or third stage of mystical union with the 'Real.' This glimpse is only the beginning and there is no purpose in trying to describe it to others. But, be aware there may be a long road ahead of you before understanding WHY this experience has been given to you.

The best description I've come across of this interior journey is:

"First is the awakening, the stage in which one begins to have some consciousness of absolute or divine reality. The second stage is one of purgation which is characterized by an awareness of one's own imperfections and finiteness. The response in this stage is one of self-discipline ... The third stage, illumination, is one reached by artists and visionaries as well as being the final stage of some mystics. It is marked by a consciousness of a transcendent order and a vision of a new heaven and a new earth.

The great mystics go beyond the stage of illumination to a fourth stage, borrowing the language of St. John of the Cross, called the "dark night of the soul." This stage, experienced by the few, is one of final and complete purification and is marked by confusion, helplessness, stagnation of the will, and a sense of the withdrawal of God's presence. It is the period of final "unselfing" and the surrender ... The final and last stage is one of union with the object of love, the one Reality/God. Here the self has been permanently established on a transcendental level and liberated for a new purpose. Filled up with the Divine Will, it immerses itself in the temporal order, the world of appearances in order to incarnate the eternal in time, to become the mediator between humanity and eternity."

Answer 2

What you know is so great and so perfectly loving that it makes you aware of just how perfect things could be and how true love lives inside you but when there is much sorrow in the world this pure love is always balance by a feeling of how painful things are.

However knowledge of this pain in some is not acknowledged as most do not care to understand how this pain is caused and so find it is too painful to think about.

Because it is not acknowledged time and time again some automatically blocked it and so many are now having trouble explaining to other people their "experience" of original perfect love as they struggle to understand from where it came.

Focus on this thought my sister and slowly see the pain in the others face and understand "why it is so" Then see how all is in balance and order, an order in law.

Many have lost their way and hence much has been lost my sister

From the Father and Son, knowledge of the Holy Spirit has been lost.

But the Mother has lost much much more!

I see peace is moving into you and what is hidden from you will be revealed for you know the light and so can find your way.

Answer 3

Yes, I have had many of them. I have been a gnostic all my life, before I know of such a term. My first big experience (had experiences prior to this time, however they more or less loss to memory so not having a strong memory of them only bits and pieces they lacked in substance and I felt they never truly happened - they were more so visions), which is probably the most important ever was when I was 17 years old and something occurred and I would've committed suicide or was on my way to, then I had what can only be described as divine intervention (even though I didn't ever harm myself). At time I was in my house then in a blink of an eye I was within the reality of my soul self, and heard and saw things which are hard to explain, of which I am not going to. I could feel that my body was still around, but it was shut down and I felt more drawn within into a different parallel state. I will mention some things, much of what I was told had to do with my not committing suicide for what is going to come, but there was other stuff as well.

I can say I was completely unprepared for such an event, to enter such a reality, it was beyond me. But since that time I was seeking know thy self, to enter that higher authentic soul reality. eventually it paid off and I was able to on multiple occasions when during my 19 and into my 20's, but I am only 24 so yeah it was recent in this time. So it wasn't by reason of physical trauma, nor by anything like that, it happened right in the time when me as a teen had made the decision to end it, then basically right then and there into that inner reality.

Peace

Answer 4

Psychiatrists are over glorified, overpaid, pill pushers. I say that as nicely as possible. While quite true there are those who benefit from the medications prescribed, many psychiatrists feel that if they just throw enough pills at the patient the problem will be solved. Rather than use actual therapy. And most don't even know all the drug interactions of that which they prescribe. Now while there are varying types of disorders and schizo-insert type of mental/chemical/emotional difficulties... Just because you're in a state of 'happy' or 'peace' doesn't mean you have this disorder. But as someone who is not your psychiatrist who knows you, your history, your settings etc, I can not effectively say whether you are in a 'natural' state or one induced by a chemical imbalance. But I myself, as someone who is considered fairly 'normal' have experienced a state of "Teletubieness" brought on by having a good day. And I just realized upon double check that you have a word that has no definition known "Tubletlessness" that I can find, and have probably answered your question wrong. But - the bulk of what I said is true. Many psychiatrists are simple pill pushers rather than therapists.

Answer 5

My 50th Birthday. I was pretty bummed out about having lived so long. And, although I didn't know it yet--I was about to be evicted and end a 3 year relationship because my GF hadn't been using the rent money I gave her to pay the rent.

A friend of mine had a karaoke show that night at a bar on Division st. So I went. At first, I was ticked off because there was an Elvis Impersonator and the karaoke wouldn't start until after midnite, but "Elvis" announced that Willie Nelson was in the audience and made me sing "Always on my Mind" with him. We've been friends ever since. I did a tarot reading for a cocktail waitress, who turned out to be the manager, which turned into a three night a week gig that lasted until the following march. The support I got from and the fun I had with both staff and customers made life worth living again.

The under the table cash I made helpede get me through a really tough couple of years, that would have been impossible otherwise.

I can't think of a way to analyze it. But I know the fix had to be in.

MM, Gnosty.

Answer 6

Yes, a profound OBE experience, where I actually thought I had died, but just traveled away from Earth for a spell, chatted with some neighbors, and they actually used the words, "It's okay, this is the next stage." I caught a view of our sector of the Universe from there, and it opened me to the vast and limitless grandeur of our home, The Universe. All I can say, once again, is you ain't see nothing yet!
Peace IS my business

Answer 7

Several years ago I had an unusual experience concerning an uncle, a distant relative who lived over a thousand miles away.

While driving my car I suddenly felt the unmistakable presence of this relative that I hardly even knew. He was more like someone I had heard about than someone I knew. It was very strange; it felt as though I was momentarily lifted right out of my physical body. I seemed to be suspended somehow beyond space and time, bathed in a love so intense It felt like I could have just disappear into it at any moment if It would have let me. It only lasted for a few seconds, but it seemed to last forever at the same time. I realize how crazy this must sound. The experience was so strong that at first I was afraid I was loosing my grip on reality. I finally managed to chalk it up to an over active imagination.

Three days later I got a call from my aunt telling me that this uncle we are talking about had gone into a coma and died the day I had the experience. It felt like ice water had been poured down my back when she told me this. I had lost any real ideas of God or faith and had become somewhat of an atheist. Needless to say this experience caused me to rethink some of the conclusions I had come to.

I feel blessed to now understand that even in our darkest confusion something loves us so much that it went out of its way to assist me and bring me back to a state of absolute certainty about Gods love for us.
During the experience it seemed like there was a vast amount of information that I was somehow allowed access to. One thing that I came away from this experience understanding beyond any shadow of a doubt was that any Idea that God is unhappy with us or would judge or allow us to be punished for any reason is simply impossible.

I can’t explain the love I felt with words. They simply don’t make words big enough or complete enough to do this. The only way I can begin to convey this love to you is to say that there was simply nothing else there. Nothing but love. No hint of judgment, no displeasure of any sort. It is as though God sees us as being as perfect as we were the day we were created. It is only in our confused idea of ourselves that we seem to have changed.

I hope this is of some help to you. Good luck. Love and blessings.

Your brother don

Answer 8

Yes, the most profound one was about 12 years ago. To this day, I don't know what it was. I went to work in a daze for days. I told 'God' that I couldn't function this way, as I felt I had to maintain my physical. I wanted to stay there, and experience it longer. I was told that it was accessible any time, and that I knew where to get it when I needed it.

I tried to capture some by writing it down, but adequate words couldn't be found. Incredibly Expansive Love is all I can say about it right now.

Thank you Gnostic, for reminding me.

Answer 9

Yes, and I understand precisely what you are saying. However I am sure that it is our 'obligation' to try to explain the possibilities to others ( sorry Squirt ), just to open a few of them to their own potential.

One only has to read the number of negative and dismissive answers here to realise just how much people in general don't want to disbelieve their inculcated conditioning.

A couple have stated that such experiences are 'delusional' or some such, how limiting are these opinions ?

Can we not just all allow each other the validity of our own 'truths' ?

Finally Gnostic, you are spot on with the vocabulary thing, when one is trying to translate the language of 'feeling' there are no words. Many eminent scientists in the areas of psychology and anthropology have expressed the view that verbal communication is a comparatively late addition to the human spectrum. And maybe it didn't augment our ability to relate to each other so much as limit it ?

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A with the Coyote. ;-)))

Edit :

Just a quick update, I, too agree with NBM's post, and my brother the Sun Man. I too believe that I am at that fourth stage, some of you know that this has been a veeery strange year for me, and I know that many of you have been experiencing your own 'Dark night of the Soul'. IN my case, in part, two near fatal accidents exactly one month apart, to the hour ! That's pretty 'dark' in my book, yet I take this, believe it or not, as a 'good' sign, a sign of things in motion, without any doubt or equivocation.

We are on our way, this Navigator is on his way, back to the 'Garden'.

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Answer 10

Gnostic, I think I know exactly what you mean. I feel that way after every ceremony that I do in Circle. It's being around all that lovely energy that makes it impossible to describe or explain. It means that you're almost heartbroken when it's time for the ritucl to end, because you just don't want to leave that experience behind. Every single ritual for me is like that, I don't want them to end, but want them to go on and on forever. One of these days, it will. It's like falling in love.

Brightest Blessings,
Raji the Green Witch