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As a Christian who is reading the Bible, I'm having trouble understanding why He doesn't fit into your prophecies so that He is not your Messiah. For Christians, He has fulfilled all of the prophecies of being the Lamb in the Old Testament.

What are the reasons of Judaism that Jesus Christ doesn't fulfill? Just a genuinely curious Christian wondering for my own understanding, thanks!

2007-08-04 19:06:28 · 18 answers · asked by Christine S 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

18 answers

Short answer: all of them

Long answer:

Here is a short list.
Is there universal knowledge of one G-d? (Jeremiah 31:33, Zechariah 8:23, 14:9, 14:16,
Isaiah 11:9, Isaiah 40:5, Zephaniah 3:9)
Were all Jews returned to Israel? (Isaiah 43:5-6, Isaiah 11:12, Isaiah 27:12-13)
Did he bring world peace? (Isaiah 11:6, Micah 4:3)
Were all weapons destroyed? (Ezekiel 39:9)
Did all warfare cease? (Isaiah 2:4)
Was the Temple rebuilt in it's place? (Ezekiel 37:24-28 Ezekiel 40-48, Isaiah 33:20, Micah
4:1)
Did he bring physical restoration to all who are sick or disabled in any way? (Isaiah
35:5-6)
Was he preceded by Elijah? (Malachi 3:23-24-- 4:4-5 in KJV)
Did the nations help the Jews materially? (Isaiah 60:5, 60:10-12, 61:6)
Does eternal joy and gladness characterize the Jewish nation? (Isaiah 51:11)
Are Jews sought for spiritual guidance? (Zechariah 8:23)
Is the Egyptian river dry yet? (Isaiah 11:15)
Do trees in Israel yield new fruit every month? (Ezekiel 47:12)
Did each tribe receive it's inheritance? (Ezekiel 47:13-14)
Is the enemy buried? (Ezekiel 39:12)
Did he accomplish these tasks without tiring or failing? (Isaiah 42:4)
Did death cease? (Isaiah 25:8)
Are the dead resurrected? (Isaiah 26:19, Daniel 12:2, Ezekiel 37:12-13)

Not to mention that J*sus did everything contrary to what a Messiah would do. Most importantly, he did magic tricks/'miracles.' It is written that the messiah will not need to do them to prove he is messiah, and that the one who tries to claim he is messiah by doing those kind of tricks is a FALSE prophet.

Here is some good literature on the subject:
http://www.messiahtruth.com/response.htm...
http://www.moshiach.com/questions/topten...
http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/

Peace

2007-08-04 19:13:29 · answer #1 · answered by LadySuri 7 · 6 2

During the tribulation 144,000 Jewish Billy Grahams will evangelize the world and the Jews will accept Jesus as their savior. The Jews of Israel are setting the stage for His return when they rebuild the Third Temple. After Armageddon and the disposal of anti-christ and the false prophet Jesus will sit on the throne inside the Third Temple and rule the world for a 1,000 years with a rod of iron. Right now is the beginning of Jacob's trouble, evil forces are closing in on Israel. Jerusalem will be a trembling cup...just read any newspaper the battle for Jerusalem and the Temple Mount is on.

2016-05-18 03:53:05 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

Honestly it would take several pages to show the description of the Messiah. a couple of people already posted some great links showing how Jesus is not the Messiah

2007-08-05 18:15:09 · answer #3 · answered by ST 4 · 0 0

Jesus was born of Mary's line not Joseph's. Though Joseph was of the line of David, by Judaic law Jesus was a Hebrew because Mary's line was Hebrew. Mary was not of the line of David.Therefore the prophesies of the Old Testament that would reveal the Messiah were not fulfilled. As well the "holy Spirit" that impregnated Mary was not a descendant of the line of David.

2007-08-04 19:18:13 · answer #4 · answered by Terry 7 · 3 1

A summary of some of the "biggies"::

In order for Jesus to have been the prophesied Messiah, he would have had to:

Be an *earthly* King of the Jews (of the line of David) who restored the Jewish monarchy, drove out the Roman invaders, set up an independent Jewish state (ruled by that same Jewish monarchy), and inaugurated an era of peace, justice and prosperity (known as "the kingdom of Heaven") for the *whole world* - in his lifetime..

Didn't exactly happen that way.

2007-08-04 20:05:27 · answer #5 · answered by Raven's Voice 5 · 5 2

The Messiah is prophesied to be a human, not a God/Man. The Messiah is prophesied to be a descendent of David, but Jesus' ancestry in the gospel varies, depending on who you ask.

2007-08-04 19:11:50 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 6 1

Jesus Christ is a great messenger of God Almighty. Islam keeps at the place where he is. The way he taught the world who he was. Neither we make him a liar nor claim him to be another God Beside One God of All. Islam gives the answer for all your doubts regarding Jesus Christ (Peace be upon Him)

2007-08-04 21:41:21 · answer #7 · answered by Ismail Eliat 6 · 0 2

Jews only accept the beginning of the Bible...the 1st 5 books...the Torah.

Many of the prophecies are after that.

They expected Him to rule and reign.

Instead He turned the other cheek and sacrificed Himself for our sins.

Judus was a zealot, and betrayed Jesus because he saw that Jesus was not going to boot out Romans.

2007-08-04 19:12:46 · answer #8 · answered by cop350zx 5 · 1 4

Good question, I starred it.
As a Muslim, I believe Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) is the real Messiah who will return to kill the antichrist and bring peace to the world.

2007-08-04 19:29:46 · answer #9 · answered by ¸.•*´`*•.¸ ℓανєη∂єr ¸.•*´`*•.¸ 6 · 5 3

Please read these links (at the bottom) thoroughly, for the information. The prophecies that you've been taught are, aren't. They were back engineered into the text by the Church long ago, and are not valid, they are not the prophecies that God gave on Mt. Sinai to the Jews for the Messiah.

The entire Christian story of the Messiah has never existed in Judaism, but comes from ancient pagan religions that had human blood sacrifices (usually virgin) for forgiveness of sin. The whole thing about being born of a virgin and a god, being a god-man (wholly god and wholly human) ,astounding everyone in the temple at a young age, growing up to become a human sacrifice for the sins of the world, dying, going to the underworld for 3 days, resurrecting, bringing life anew to the world ---- ALL of this comes from ancient pagan religions and not from Judaism.

In Judaism it has always, always been that the Messiah is born of a married Jewish man and woman in the usual way, he is wholly human, he marries, has sons to whom he leaves an inheritance, he and he alone (not some antichrist figure) is the only one able to rebuild the Temple, from which he rules.

He is not killed as some sort of sacrifice for anyone's sins. In fact if he IS killed, then he was not the Messiah.

After the Temples were destroyed, the Jews cried to God and asked "How will we obtain forgiveness for our sins?" God told them "The prayers of your lips will subsitute for the bulls of sacrifice from this time on." This was in Hosea, LONG before Jesus.

There was no need, and in fact it is an abomination to have a human sacrifice in any way, shape, or form. In fact, according to Judaism, this was the lesson in the story of Isaac and Abraham, not just that it was a test for Abraham.

It had not been that long before, that Abraham had taken his people out of similar paganism and into the new religion he founded. Isaac was 37 years old at the time of the incident and actually died of fright on the altar, which Christians are unaware of. He was next to take over his father Abraham's position and it was very important that he understand what an abomination, what a cruel and horrible practice human sacrifice was. They were literally surrounded by it, and it was very important that Isaac understand - apparently he needed to experience it firsthand. As a result of this, his beloved mother Sarah died in her tent, when she heard where Abraham had taken Isaac and what for. Altogether this was a lesson Isaac wouldn't forget, a horrible lesson.

Also, blood sacrifice was only required for unintentional sins. The rest of the offerings were grain, etc. for everything else. All of these offerings and sacrifices were done for all the 70 nations of the world, not just for the Jews.

So what the church did was take its religion right back into the old paganism, which is why the Jews who had been a part of it at the beginning, left. It is idolatry to Jews to have a human sacrifice, and a messiah who is a god-man to be worshipped.

The Messiah in Judaism is a MAN, and is not to be worshipped, only God is to be worshipped.

Also, Judaism does not have Original Sin. This is a Church invention, taken from the story in Genesis and twisted. Original Sin is a horrid concept to Jews, that God would create us with filthy souls as rags and unable to do anything to clean ourselves, how horrid, and what a slap in the face to our God to believe He would allow such a thing for his beloved creation. Original Sin was, as far as scholars have been able to determine, invented by the Church as a means of control over its followers, giving them no choice BUT to come to the Church, along with their money and property, etc. This concept has never, ever existed in Judaism.

Judaism also doesn't have an eternal burning hell in which God casts sinners. We have reincarnation. Always have. The Nicene Council removed it from Christianity, I believe around 300 A.D. or so. You can look up the exact date. This is also when they ruled that Jesus would from then on be considered a deity, as well.

Really, most Christians are incorrectly taught that Judaism and Christianity are just alike, except that Jews don't believe in Jesus. Nothing could be farther from the truth. There really isn't even one foundational belief or doctrine that is the same in the two religions, but most Christians will never know this because they never bother to investigate or ask any religious Jews. They just take what they learn from the Church, which is a package of untruths, and stick with it.

If you are interested in the Messiah, what his role actually is, where he comes from, etc. please read the following links. I hope this helps answer some of your questions:

Oh! Also, non-Jews were given the way to have their place in the World To Come as well, when they will worship the God of Israel side by side, equally, with the Jews. That is by following the 7 Noahide Laws.

Which reminds me, you've probably been taught that we Jews believe we obtain salvation by works. Again, a lie. We do not even have the concept of needing salvation in the first place, not having Original Sin, and being told directly by God in Hosea that our prayers are the means for forgiveness in this life. We follow the law because they are ways to manifest the essence of God on earth, to express compassion, kindness, just and fair society - they are guildlines for a working relationship between man and man, and man and God.

So it is by following the paths of the 7 Noahide Laws that non-Jews do this same thing, and are righteous people as a result. We do believe that anyone can be righteous if they so choose. The more you do a thing, the more you BECOME that thing - the more kindness you do, the more you yourself become a kind compassionate person. The more you do selfish things, crimes, etc. the more you become desensitized and selfish inside. It is a choice, everyone is born with a clean slate and makes their choices as their lives go on, to be righteous or unrighteous.

Anyway, here are the links that will tell you about the actual prophecies for the Messiah, of which there are only about 16 or so. The hundreds that the Church has tried to insert, are not true prophecies.

http://www.aish.com/spirituality/philoso...

http://www.messiahtruth.com/response.htm...

http://ohr.edu/ask/ask00j.htm

http://shamash.org/lists/scj-faq/html/fa...

http://www.beingjewish.com/toshuv/whynot...

http://www.askmoses.com/article.html?h=1...

http://www.jewsforjudaism.com

To learn more about where Christianity got its pagan foundations, please visit:
http://www.drazin.com (be sure to read the chapter on ancient god/men in the Table of Contents along with the rest)

2007-08-04 19:32:56 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

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