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Jesus predicted it would come before his apostles died. he was wrong you are wrong the thousands of apocolyptics since have been wrong. you see them now on street corners telling you to repnt the end is near. Untill jesus was reshaped by his later followers he was considered in the same light by almost everyone. He was after all an apcolyptic jew.

While the rapture may be a new term there is no doubt about the apocolyptic teachings of jesus.

2007-08-04 18:52:13 · answer #1 · answered by Gawdless Heathen 6 · 1 4

Misconception of the Parousia.It is one event.That is to say that the Great Tribulation is 42 months in Revelation,not 7 years per the 70th Week of Daniel.It will be cut short for the sake of the elect[Christians].Which clearly means at the 2nd Coming...Jesus will "rapture" up all believers dead and alive and then pour out His Wrath tocomplete the period.There is no 7 year tribulation in Scripture.We are in those times now.There are not 21 Rev. Judgments,there are 7.Read it again.The seals open up the trumpets and vials.Those are one and the same but from different vantage points.

2007-08-04 19:52:20 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Where you been? The rapture was 6 years ago! We're in the Great Tribulation RIGHT NOW. It will culminate with the Final Crusade, when Iran starts a nuclear war with Israel and gives nuclear weapons to the terrorists. Conditions will spiral out of control and all of humanity will be annihilated.

I believe that's as valid as any other fantasy you'll receive.

2007-08-04 18:50:46 · answer #3 · answered by Seeker 6 · 1 1

Hello.
If you mean rapture as by dead bodies are being taken to "Heaven" vvhere many believe is somevvhere in outer-space (vvhich the earth is already in [outer] space) vvhile the rest go to "Hell", it vvill not happen, according to the Bible, that is, since the rapture is not mentioned in that vvay.
http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-Hebrews9-27.htm
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen06.html
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen03.html

If you mean vvhen all the elect souls vvill be in the spirit vvorld vvhile the vvicked stay asleep/dead (vvhich is spiritually [asleep/dead]; see Mat. 8:21-22; Lk. 9:59-60), that I can-not say.

Knovv this, in (the book) The Revelation of YhShVVh (Jesvs) Christ (vvhich g-d gave unto Him) Given Unto Us Through Iohn the Divine, there may be many interpretations.

There is that may be said to be the literal and the spiritual and the metaphysical interpretation of almost all portions of the Scripture, and especially of the Revelation as given by Iohn.
Yet all of these to be true, to be practical, to be applicable in the experiences of individuals, must coordinate; or be as one, even as the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
-Edgar Cayce Reading Excerpt 281-31

THE RAPTURE (The state of being transported by a lofty emotion; ecstasy.)
VVILL TAKE PLACE VVHEN EVER YOU ARE READY.

Also knovv this, the kingdome of OD (g-d) is vvithin you (Lk. 17:20-21). Compare Luke 17:20-21 to Mark 4:11 (also see In. 3:5; Romans 10:6-7).


The Revelation IS THE REVELATION OF SELF, THINE BODY.
http://www.revelation2seven.org/WebPages/Chapter1pt4.htm
http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/singleeyepineal.htm

2007-08-05 22:01:53 · answer #4 · answered by WWJD: What Would Joker Do? 4 · 0 0

2 Thess 2:3 tells us the rapture wont take place until the anti Christ has been revealed. So all of us comprehend we are right here that long. i individually have self belief in mid trib I even have self belief we are interior the beginnings of the tribulation now what the Bible calls the beginning pains. the single worldwide funds device is being set up, the technologies is in place for the mark. undergo in innovations Israel is Gods time clock once you notice the peace treaty signed with Israel and her Arab pals you recognize it somewhat is close! it will be a 7 twelve months peace treaty notwithstanding it will be broken after 3 a million/2 years then issues take place very immediately. i individually have self belief the rapture of the church is the element that helps the Anti christ to grow to be the chief of the finished worldwide. think of approximately it while human beings from each u . s . a . interior the worldwide unexpectedly disappear devoid of obvious rationalization terror is going to strike and because it will be a worldwide adventure they are going to be open to a worldwide chief. somebody who seems to be calm and on top of issues to calm the plenty. the guy who pronounced in basic terms a hundred and forty four,000 get rapture, examine your Bible please, that's somewhat clean those is truthfully no longer raptured they're Jews 12,000 from all of the 12 tribes of Israel it record them out 12,000 from the tribe of Gad 12,000 from the tribe of Reuben etc that's present day in Revelation 7 a million-8 they're of course there throughout the tribulation by using fact the judgment is held until they're sealed so as that they are going to be secure. they're the Remnant of Israel. God will constantly keep a remnant of Israel to Himself and that they are going to unfold the coolest information of Jesus and a good number of Jews will come to Jesus and fulfill the prophecy they are going to look on Him whom they have pierced and morn as for an in basic terms son. the secret's while ever that's be waiting!

2016-10-01 10:35:37 · answer #5 · answered by threat 4 · 0 0

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2007-08-04 18:49:23 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

The rapture of the church is a teaching that has come about from the 1800's (*) and was not adhered to by the original believers in the Bible. It is a deception to believe God is going to remove us out of the earth when the Bible plainly states:

2 Timothy 3:12, "Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."

And when Jesus himself prayed in John 17:15
for ALL believers:

"I pray not that Thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldest keep them from the evil."

This is a frequently used verse that is TWISTED!

1 Corinthians 15:52, "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

((*Please note it states we will CHANGE in the twinkling of an eye---NOT that we will disappear!!! If we are alive at the LAST TRUMP we will immediately be changed to our perfected body and just as Jesus is our perfect example in EVERY way--we ascend to heaven even as He did!))

When does this take place??


1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

(this is a "catching away"--or the ascending of those believers who are changed from their fleshly bodies to their incorruptible bodies who are still alive at Jesus' second coming)

IF anyone here wants the TRUTH--continue to read:

God indicates that time will be NO MORE at the LAST TRUMP!

Revelation 10:6, "And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be TIME NO LONGER:"


Revelation 10:7, "But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the MYSTERY OF GOD SHOULD BE FINISHED, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets."

((Cross reference that the Mystery of God is Jesus' work of redemption of all of mankind.))

Revelation 11:15, "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever."

((Sounds like the KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD are now the KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD!!!))

Now some who interpret revelations believe that The seals, trumpets and vials will occur consecutively--that means--as they are written. That would mean that the LAST TRUMP would occur Mid-tribulation.

Some interpret all three events---the seals, trumpets and vials to occur concurrently---that means at the same time--if that is true then the LAST TRUMP would occur at the End of the tribulation.

There is NO WAY the Last Trump occurs prior to the first trump, the second trump, the third trump, the fourth trump, the fifth trump or the sixth trump. That's just common sense. It is an ABSOLUTE deception that the LAST TRUMP is going to sound BEFORE the others sound first.

2007-08-05 16:57:41 · answer #7 · answered by steinbeck11 6 · 0 0

Pretribualationalist like myself believe it will happen before the great tribullation occurs. Look up the term "dispensationalism" on the web and you find all of the various versions of end time beliefs that you could care to look at.

2007-08-04 18:53:24 · answer #8 · answered by Future Citizen of Forvik 7 · 0 1

Before the tribulation, period. There is ample evidence in the scripture to show the pre trib rapture and trying to say that the bride of Christ is going to have to go through a horrible judgement of God is not in scripture and is a misinterpretation.

2007-08-04 18:52:54 · answer #9 · answered by disciple 4 · 0 2

There is no biblical basis for a "rapture".
Many scholars place the tribulation as something that already happened during Nero's time.
When the end comes, it comes for everyone.

2007-08-04 18:51:47 · answer #10 · answered by BrandedByBlood 2 · 3 1

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