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I often hear catholics holler 'protestants, protestants!', ok- so what was Paul? There was no catholicism at the time (just regular paganism)- so are you telling me he wasn't of Christ?

Do you see how ridiculous this sounds now?

No religions necessary, no titles, no man-made structures- just faith in Jesus and His word to be a christian.

www.loveyouJesus.com

2007-08-04 17:22:43 · 9 answers · asked by jesusisking51 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

And to those who are struggling with comprehending this question- I am simply asking the structure that is Catholicism- was Paul, a believer in Christ- a christian? Because there was no way he was catholic.

It simply exposes how ridiculous it is to assume the catholic church as 'Christ's church', and no one else is christian.

Call Paul a protestant. Call James a protestant. Peter? Don't think a follower of Christ would have you pray to dead people and worship statues.

2007-08-04 22:37:12 · update #1

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We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

Eph 2:8-10

to the person below my post. Paul was not one of the 12 deciples.

2007-08-04 17:25:54 · answer #1 · answered by L.C. 6 · 0 1

According to Acts 11:26 "it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians."

Mary and Joseph believed that Jesus was the Messiah even before He was born. They were the first Christians even it the word had not been invented yet.

Paul was also a Christian even if it was before anyone preached in Antioch.

The same goes along with the word Catholic which is Greek for universal. The universal Christian Church has always been universal even if it took the early Church a while to learn that.

The three (non-Jewish) Magi visiting the baby Jesus was one of the first signs that Christianity would reach out to the entire world.

Later Jesus treated non-Jews like Romans and Samaritans with dignity and respect. In consequence, these Romans and Samaritans became some of the first Christians.

After Jesus' Resurrection, more and more Gentiles became believers and the Apostles decided under the influence of the Holy Spirit that they did not have to convert to Judaism to become Christians.

The Church has referred to itself as the “Catholic Church” at least since 107 C.E. (about 10 years after the last book of the New Testament was written), when the Greek term "Katholikos" appears in the Letter of St. Ignatius of Antioch to the Smyrnaeans:

"Wherever the bishop appear, there let the multitude be; even as wherever Christ Jesus is, there is the Catholic Church."

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/ignatius-smyrnaeans-hoole.html

We do not know how long they had been using the term "Catholic" before it was included in this letter.

All mainstream Christians were mainstream Catholics from Pentecost until 1054 when the Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Churches split.

With love in Christ.

2007-08-05 12:37:10 · answer #2 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0 0

The Catholic Church is Christ's Church:

FOUR MARKS OF THE TRUE CHURCH



If we wish to locate the Church founded by Jesus, we need to locate the one that has the four chief marks or qualities of his Church. The Church we seek must be one, holy, catholic, and apostolic.

The Church Is One (Rom. 12:5, 1 Cor. 10:17, 12:13, CCC 813–822)
Jesus established only one Church, not a collection of differing churches (Lutheran, Baptist, Anglican, and so on). The Bible says the Church is the bride of Christ (Eph. 5:23–32). Jesus can have but one spouse, and his spouse is the Catholic Church.

His Church also teaches just one set of doctrines, which must be the same as those taught by the apostles (Jude 3). This is the unity of belief to which Scripture calls us (Phil. 1:27, 2:2).

Although some Catholics dissent from officially-taught doctrines, the Church’s official teachers—the pope and the bishops united with him—have never changed any doctrine. Over the centuries, as doctrines are examined more fully, the Church comes to understand them more deeply (John 16:12–13), but it never understands them to mean the opposite of what they once meant.

The Church Is Holy (Eph. 5:25–27, Rev. 19:7–8, CCC 823–829)
By his grace Jesus makes the Church holy, just as he is holy. This doesn’t mean that each member is always holy. Jesus said there would be both good and bad members in the Church (John 6:70), and not all the members would go to heaven (Matt. 7:21–23).

But the Church itself is holy because it is the source of holiness and is the guardian of the special means of grace Jesus established, the sacraments (cf. Eph. 5:26).

The Church Is Catholic (Matt. 28:19–20, Rev. 5:9–10, CCC 830–856)
Jesus’ Church is called catholic ("universal" in Greek) because it is his gift to all people. He told his apostles to go throughout the world and make disciples of "all nations" (Matt. 28:19–20).

For 2,000 years the Catholic Church has carried out this mission, preaching the good news that Christ died for all men and that he wants all of us to be members of his universal family (Gal. 3:28).

Nowadays the Catholic Church is found in every country of the world and is still sending out missionaries to "make disciples of all nations" (Matt. 28:19).

The Church Jesus established was known by its most common title, "the Catholic Church," at least as early as the year 107, when Ignatius of Antioch used that title to describe the one Church Jesus founded. The title apparently was old in Ignatius’s time, which means it probably went all the way back to the time of the apostles.

The Church Is Apostolic (Eph. 2:19–20, CCC 857–865)
The Church Jesus founded is apostolic because he appointed the apostles to be the first leaders of the Church, and their successors were to be its future leaders. The apostles were the first bishops, and, since the first century, there has been an unbroken line of Catholic bishops faithfully handing on what the apostles taught the first Christians in Scripture and oral Tradition (2 Tim. 2:2).

These beliefs include the bodily Resurrection of Jesus, the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist, the sacrificial nature of the Mass, the forgiveness of sins through a priest, baptismal regeneration, the existence of purgatory, Mary’s special role, and much more —even the doctrine of apostolic succession itself.

Early Christian writings prove the first Christians were thoroughly Catholic in belief and practice and looked to the successors of the apostles as their leaders. What these first Christians believed is still believed by the Catholic Church. No other Church can make that claim.


If you wish to follow Christ as a non-Catholic Christian, there is nothing necessarily wrong with that. However, if you follow a doctrine that compells you to bash Catholics, your's is a false Doctrine because it pitches man against man.

Catholicism is a unifying force, not a divisive one.

2007-08-06 04:48:03 · answer #3 · answered by Daver 7 · 1 0

Christ founded his Church on St. Peter, who became the Bishop of Rome/The Pope. Only Roman Catholicism has apostolic succession or the ability to trace its origins to the apostles themselves!


Tertullian
"Was anything withheld from the knowledge of Peter, who is called 'the rock on which the Church would be built' [Matt. 16:18] with the power of 'loosing and binding in heaven and on earth' [Matt. 16:19]?" (Demurrer against the Heretics 22 [A.D. 200]).

Third century the historian Caius wrote that Pope Victor was ``the thirteenth Bishop of Rome from Peter.''
The words ``rock'' and ``shepherd'' must apply to Peter, and they must distinguish him as the head Apostle, otherwise Christ's statements are so ambiguous (vague, uncertain) as to be meaningless

2007-08-04 17:33:57 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

No it does sound a little silly but Paul was an apostle he wrote 2/3rd of the New Testament and was beaten because he wouldn't stop preaching and was executed because of it. Before Paul became an Apostle he was a Jew and a good one and was trying to kill Christians but He received a vision from Jesus asking why he was trying to persecuting Jesus. His name to begin with was Saul. A Christian received a vision to baptise Paul and Paul didn't eat or drink and was blind for 3 days then received his sight.

2007-08-04 17:30:02 · answer #5 · answered by kathmrc 3 · 1 0

*Is Catholic* St. Paul is a Catholic. He wasn't a Protestant. in case you examine the classes of St. Paul in the scriptures, they tournament the classes of the Catholic Church, no longer the Protestants. there became Catholicism on the time, it in basic terms did no longer use the call "Catholic", that got here lots later. undergo in suggestions one concern, it became the Pagan Romans who named Christianity "Christianity", the Christians named it "Catholicism" or the standard faith. it somewhat is obviously reflective of St. Paul's theology as he taught that the Gospels have been to be preached as a usual faith, the only staggering faith, and that each and every person different "gentiles" had to come back to the religion for salvation and that many of the gentile international locations had some information of God yet using fact the "unknown God", which he writes approximately in his letters. Now see here is the place you flow on an exceedingly risky direction. You seem to no longer understand what faith is. faith isn't wish, it is not any longer have confidence. that's know-how derived from a relationship with God. you are able to not have a relationship with God in case you haven't any longer have been given a faith using fact the meaning of "faith" are those ties and bonds by utilising which a guy or woman has a relationship with what they worship. So in case you assert all you elect for is his be conscious to be a Christian, then that's extremely sparkling to me which you haven't any longer have been given possession of the two the be conscious or Christ. For in case you probably did, you would be in a relationship with Christ and could be worshiping Christ. somewhat that's obvious which you're in a relationship including your very own suggestions and your very own suggestions of what you assume Christ to be like. permit me propose which you mirror on what precisely it takes to be in a relationship with God and the very specific platforms and duties that God has instituted, as recorded partly in scripture, so as that we would somewhat enter right into a relationship with Christ, be crammed with the Spirit, and supply appropriate worship to the father.

2016-10-09 06:03:54 · answer #6 · answered by hyler 4 · 0 0

Gee, I guess that does sound ridiculous.
Honestly, I have no idea what you are talking about.

2007-08-04 17:35:34 · answer #7 · answered by NONAME 7 · 0 1

You really have no idea what you're saying.

Stop embarassing yourself and just give it up.

2007-08-04 18:22:16 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

yes he was one of the tweleve discples

2007-08-04 17:26:04 · answer #9 · answered by littlebit 2 · 0 4

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