why do catholics baptist babies?

Question

baptism is dying to self, and rising as new creature. your babies are innocent. this is something you do once you have giving your life to God. let them become old enough to understand what it means.

i dedicated mine to God but i didnt immerse them into water

(pan) cant handle opinions to well can you?

(leso) thank you for your concern with my spelling. would you like to teach me?

(abel) i understand what your saying. but what bout this. Mark 16:16 "he who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned." it didnt say "who doesnt get baptized", it just says who doesnt believe. wouldnt it say who doesnt do both?

(paul) i interpret that a little different John 3:4-6 the man was asking how to be born again. when your in your mothers womb you are protected by the water sac, correct? well thats the born of water. (not baptism) water/flesh the only way on earth is being born through woman. the spirit is the second birth or being born again. this is my opinion.

(pan) no im not catholic or trying to convert. i am asking a question and putting my thoughts in it. i have not condemed anyone for their beliefs. just cause i pointed out mine dont mean i condem the next.

you dont get grace through baptism. grace is a free gift that we accept when we accept Jesus in our hearts. if grace came from baptism, then it would no longer be free but earned. thats just not true.

(abel) i did answer her. i named her (pan)

Answer 1

When I read the stuff that is posted here by the catholics, I don't know whether to laugh at them or cry for them.

imacatholic2 (just above me) wrote, The Catholic Church teaches, "Born with a fallen human nature and tainted by original sin, children also have need of the new birth in Baptism to be freed from the power of darkness and brought into the realm of the freedom of the children of God, to which all men are called."

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." Romans 10:9

Please show me where it reads you "have to" be baptizes to be save? If God expects a confession from "your" mouth to be saved, then offer something besides opinion to prove that this verse from the Bible is a lie. Because that is exactly what the catholic church is claiming! Even your Jerusalem bible makes the same claim!

The catholics claimed to be the "original" church chosen by Christ Jesus because He was speaking with Peter.

The "original" churches that are listed in the Bible are listed in the book of Corinthians and Philippians just to name two. No where does the Bible make a reference about the catholic church being the "one true church" or the "original" church just because God told Peter that He Himself, Jesus, was the Rock and that Peter was a pebble.

Abel (8 above me) stated that "The fact is, the Bible gives us no way of bringing anyone to Jesus apart from baptism."

Bible reads:

"How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!" Romans 10:14-15

What does baptism have to do with it?

IF it takes water baptism to be saved, please ask God how did the thieve on the cross with Him made it to heaven without it? You say he didn't have enough time to be baptizes? Well, if it takes water baptism to make it to heaven, what difference does that make? Because if that is true, then what you are saying is, Jesus lied to that thieve that day about going to heaven. And even in our own day and age, there is no telling of how many people while on their death beds repented to Christ and asked Him to come into their hearts before they died that were never baptizes. So to claim that a person "must" be baptizes to be saved is very misleading. Learn what the Bible really say about Baptism.

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Timothy 2:15

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" Galatians 4:16

Answer 2

The Catholic Church teaches, "Born with a fallen human nature and tainted by original sin, children also have need of the new birth in Baptism to be freed from the power of darkness and brought into the realm of the freedom of the children of God, to which all men are called."

Infant baptism is not a new thing. There are non-biblical documented sources starting in the second century telling of infant Baptism.

There are even several passages in the Bible where whole households were baptized. This would include everyone who lived there, men, women, children, and infants.

Acts 16:15, "After she and her household had been baptized"

Acts 16:33, "then he and all his family were baptized at once."

Acts 18:8, "came to believe in the Lord along with his entire household, and many of the Corinthians who heard believed and were baptized."

1 Corinthians 1:16, "I baptized the household of Stephanas"

St. Paul wrote that baptism has replaced circumcision (Col 2:11-12), and in Judaism circumcision was performed primarily on infants.

By the way, infant baptism is also practiced by the majority of Protestants in the world, including Lutherans, Anglicans, Presbyterians, Dutch Reformed, Methodists, and others.

For more information, see Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 1250: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt2sect2.htm#1250

With love in Christ.

Answer 3

I would challenge you to come up with one piece of scripture that limits baptism to adults, or denies it to infants.

There is much necessity to be found in infant baptism. Firstly, it marks the soul of the baptized as belonging to Jesus Christ. It incorporates the child into the Church--which is a process of growth. Also, grace comes through baptism, and as Christians, we believe grace is essential for the development of the soul. Why deny that grace to a young soul only because they are not an adult? The Bible clearly points out that whole families and households were baptized. It is a far stretch to believe that these families did not include children. The Bible makes it clear that we are all born in sin--thus, your argument that some are innocent is untrue. If baptism is only about the committment to Christ that you speak of, then you are missing everything else that Christ gives us through baptism.

Answer 4

Because ...

(1) The Bible tells us that NO-ONE can enter the kingdom without being born of water and the spirit through baptism. Protestants have changed this to read "no-one except children", but Catholics don't change Scripture to match their modern traditions. And ...

(2) Because the Christian Church has baptized infants from the very beginning. The Bible has little to say on this, one way or the other, but the writings of the early Fathers of the Church repeatedly and strongly support the Apostolic practice of infant baptism. Which is why Protestants don't read such historical texts, even when seeking the answers to historical questions.

Answer 5

It's a legal way to brainwash (literalism can be so much fun!) and terrorize the babies into submission.

If only it was also an opportunity to teach babies how to swim — but that will never happen. Can you imagine how sacrilegious it would be if all those babies were suddenly able to walk on the water ?

> why do catholics baptist babies?
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Answer 6

No I won't wait until their old enough to teach them about God. I got them baptized when they were babies because it is a commitment to have kids. A gift that I was honored enough to recieve from God. The church and the parents commit to raise the child knowing God. They blessed for purity because we are all born sinners.

Answer 7

Are you a Catholic? Are you planning on converting to Catholicism? No? Then why does it concern you what rituals other faiths follow? What difference does it make in your life? Do you also concern yourself with matters such as the AIDS crisis in Africa or the genocide in Darfur, or is it merely attempting to control the beliefs of others that occupies your thoughts and time?
And yes, I would really appreciate an answer to my question because I am dumbfounded when someone condemns other people's religious beliefs as a way to somehow give more credit to their own beliefs.

Answer 8

The New Testament itself, while it does not explicitly say when (or whether) believers should have their children baptized, is not silent on the subject.
Luke 18, 15-16 tells us that "they were bringing even infants" to Jesus; and he himself related this to the kingdom of God: "Let the children come to me ... for to such belongs the kingdom of God."
When non-Catholics speak of "bringing someone to Jesus," they mean leading him to faith. The fact is, the Bible gives us no way of bringing anyone to Jesus apart from baptism.
Thus Peter declared, "Repent, and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children" (Acts 2,38-39).


The apostolic Church baptized whole "households" (Acts 16,33; 1 Corinthians 1,16) a term encompassing children and infants.
Baptism is the Christian equivalent of circumcision, or "the circumcision of Christ": "In him were you also circumcised... the circumcision of Christ, having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead" (Colossians 2,11-12). Thus, like circumcision, baptism can be given to children as well as adults. The difference is that circumcision was powerless to save (Galatians 5,6; 6,15), but "baptism now saves you" (1 Peter 3,21).
The first explicit evidence of children of believing households being baptized comes from the early Church--where infant baptism was uniformly upheld and regarded as apostolic.


Origen
"Every soul that is born into flesh is soiled by the filth of wickedness and sin....In the Church, baptism is given for the remission of sins, and, according to the usage of the Church, baptism is given even to infants. If there were nothing in infants which required the remission of sins and nothing in them pertinent to forgiveness, the grace of baptism would seem superfluous" (Homilies on Leviticus 8:3[A.D. 248]).
The Church received from the apostles the tradition of giving baptism even to infants. The apostles, to whom were committed the secrets of the divine, knew there are in everyone innate stains of [original sin], which must be washed away through water and the spirit" (Commentaries on Romans 5:9 [A.D. 248]).

Peace and every blessing!

Source:
catholic.com/library

Edit: I would like you to answer pangloss' question to you? You are probably one of those fundamentalists who always presume to know more about my faith.

Answer 9

Man's tradition causes the nonsense of infant baptism.

Answer 10

They are convinced that it will guarantee the young going to heaven later. Ephesians 2:8,9