Are there any real americans left that are just as fed up with this illegal immagration thing as I am?

Question

I just need to know, for my own peace of mind that there are people pissed off because they will be drained of social security by the time they retire, or the fact that americans can not get state health insurence when they need it the most? Why? Because if you were to walk into a DES office, you would find that the majority is all illegals. I just want to know, is there anyone else out there that believes that they should have no rights what so ever if they did not come into our country the right way? No medical, no right to vote (which they are doing) no bank accounts, no government aid, no morgage. Please tell me there are still people in this country that are just as pissed off as I am.

The Angry American *****

Answer 1

Coragryph Is a perfect example of ignorance of our LAWS,and pretending thet ILLEGAL immigration Is just fine and dandy.... It Is against FEDERAL LAW to aid and abeit an ILLEGAL ALIEN. That Is exactly what banks are doing. He Is blurring the lines between ILLEGALS VS LEGAL immigrants. His statement that ILLEGALS have no medical Is laughable. They CANNOT be turned away at ANY emergency center,and they use this as their primary care. There are some ILLEGALS that are indeed voting,which Is a FELONY. And I'm not sure why he thinks that AMERICAN CITIZENS are committing voter fraud. We should OBJECT to ILLEGALS, because they are ILLEGALLY In this country,and have to committ crime after crime to continue to stay here. They use false documents,they steal peoples identities,they drive drunk and kill people,many are gang members,who do not even think twice about murdering someone.I could go on with more FACTS, but people like him do not relate to facts,rather they react with their own personal "SPIN" to make a case for their OPINIONS on ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. The bottom line Is this.... THEY ARE ILLEGALLY IN THIS COUNTRY,AND THEY ARE A NET DRAIN TO THE ECONOMY! THEY ARE DIVIDING THIS NATION CULTURALLY,AND RACIALLY,AND AMERICAN CITIZENS HAVE HAD ENOUGH!!! Graph, I see that you are a "TOP CONTRIBUTOR". In my opinion your "CONTRIBUTION" to the discussion of this topic Is at best very "JADED" and Is lacking In the "TRUTH" department. AMERICAN citizens are not able to have a useful dialogue with the people taking your position,because you fail to even recognize that a problem even exists. The longer that you try to make a case for ILLEGALS using falsehoods and innuendo,the longer this will take to resolve . The "TRUTH" Is on the AMERICAN PEOPLES SIDE,not yours......

Answer 2

First of all the SS system since it's inception was "never" meant as an income in old age, so therefore illegals no matter which country they are from have absolutely nothing to do with the SS system.

When you talk about health insurance, whether it be state or county, that's for people with incomes less than $9,000 a year, i.e. those who need it. And in a good income like the US has had in the past several years where the average income in a low income state like Florida is $55,000 I can't understand why you would be worried about healthcare unless you're disabled or are a senior citizen.

There is a program going on right now that companies are getting dunned for having hired illegals, and the illegals are being removed and sent back home.

You need to talk with your grandparents who will tell you that in the 1800's, early 1900's that parents were taken in (given a room in their house) by and paid for by their children, and their children pitching in to pay their medical bills and food. So is your intention not to have any children?

You are right when you say that people from other countries should come into the US just the way they have done for centuries, come in the legal way, have a sponsor, get a job, earn their way, study for 7 years and become citizens, etc.

How do you know illegals are voting. If you know that then turn them in. When here illegals do need a bank account and they don't have them back home so they need to put their money somewhere rather than having it ripped off, and they need to pay bills like the rest of us so they need a bank, whether here or there.

I can say that instead of having county or state health insurance when they need help they go to the emergency rooms, but even Americans who don't have health insurance go to the emergency rooms.....and they cost more...so that's a drain on the system and has to be changed.

So, some of the things you're po'ed about I don't understand why you are pe'ed about. A few things you mentioned do have to be straightened out and are being discussed (and are tryng to be solved) as we write.

Answer 3

Yes, I am. I can't afford to be angry or hate them as that would hurt me. The amount of fraud and other crimes they've committed are enough to drive one up a wall, but figure in the ADC, food stamps, WIC and non payment for hospital visits, add extra educational costs and we've go a national problem of monumental proportion! I don't feel as if we OWE any foreigner the RIGHT to live in our country, especially the illegals. They do nothing but take, they may have low wages but the afore mentioned programs available to those with anchor babies raises that intake by a great amount. So stay aware but don't get bogged down with hate, just e-mail, call and fax your state's political officials and make your feelings known! And pay very close attention to who gets your votes in the future. WE'll conquer this BS in our own time, it's on the horizon as we speak!

Answer 4

my friend, a welfare worker says that they are not entitled UNLESS it's for the child born in this country which makes them ELIGIBLE for all government programs. They DO get welfare and food stamps. They also tend to get pregnant immediately so they get even more benefits. See the fallacy that they don't get benefits is what we are told but since the anchor baby is considered a US citizen, they are not counted as illegal. See how the facts are twisted to fit the agenda? Me, I'm mad that like the bratty children they are (our government) we have to watch them every minute.

Answer 5

Yeah, I agree & can understand what your point of view
But lets be patient & lets see the whole picture from many angle & perception
Lets try to put ourselves into their shoes too
What happened now ?

Why they want to be a illegal imigrant ?
Why they can gain any citizenship in USA ?
Why they want to come in USA ?
Why they want to life in USA ?
Why they want to leave their families birthland ?
Why ?

Yeah, I know cuz its happend almost to anybody in USA but we must know too that we must pity them cuz we are still more lucky than them
They came to USA cuz they want to make a supposedly better life & better financial condition too
They want to feel the "American Dream" things too like us
And cuz we life as a human being that need to be socialized, I think we need to do something about that

Our government need to do something about that
Maybe with more less violence too

Answer 6

Yeah! You’re gonna get a lot of people calling you judgmental or hatemonger for not wanting to share the good life. Those people just aren't consistent. I know this is a typical response but it still makes the point...For everyone who wants to "share the good life" let's invite less fortunate people than yourself into YOUR home with YOUR family and spend YOUR hard earned money. Make YOUR kids go with less clothes or tell YOUR 16 year old that they can't get a car on their b-day because some stranger is going to get that money instead. See the problem is that most people who CLAIM to be so good hearted don't really spend their time and money helping the poor and unfortunate. I don't know what it is about people that they don't understand the importance on preserving our way of life. People want to come to America because it is so great. If other places were so great then why are they leaving. I'm not only mad because of the money thing...I'm made at the signs that say Mexico is the true owners of the US. Oh really??? With that logic I'd say Spain has more rights to (at least parts of) the US than Mexico since Mexico seceded from them or better yet...the American Indians have the most rights...with that logic anyways...but I don't see immigrants pursuing that plan! I'm also mad because that means not only "hard working decent people" are coming here but the open borders means less homeland security. We can't save everybody. And with open borders…we can't even save ourselves!

Answer 7

The drain on social security has nothing to do with illegal immigration -- it's about Congress raiding the trust fund.

And the same practices have been going on for most of a hundred years -- you're just hearing the numbers shouted more loudly now. But the same complaints and arguments happened when the Germans, Italians, Irish, Dutch and every other minority group that has immigrated have come over.

And they have no medical, no right to vote, and no government aid -- except for the ones committing fraud. And that's even more common among American citizens who are committing the exact same types of fraud -- so again, nothing special about immigration because it's a general problem.

As far as bank accounts and mortgages, what a private business does is up to that private business -- and why you objecting to "them" putting money INTO the economy? I though your complaint was about taking OUT of the economy?

Answer 8

Actually, I am more p*ssed off at voting americans. We have brought this on ourselves. We voted these people into office and let them get away with all their pandering and BS. Trust me, I intend to help fix that this coming election.

Answer 9

I too am just as pissed off as you! I think the illegals should have NO benefits whatsoever! The benefits are for the citizens of this fine country!

Answer 10

From an email I recieved-You are not alone

Living in Mexico
Every American should get a copy of the e-mail!
And it is not even a joke!!!!!!
I got this and it is soooooooo true.
If you are ready for the adventure of a lifetime, TRY THIS:
Enter Mexico illegally. Never mind immigration quotas, visas,
international law, or any of that nonsense.
Once there, demand that the local government provide free medical care for you and your entire family.
Demand bilingual nurses and doctors. Demand free bilingual local government forms, bulletins, etc. Procreate abundantly.

Deflect any criticism of this allegedly irresponsible reproductive behavior with, "It is a cultural U.S.A. thing. You would not understand, pal."
Keep your American identity strong. Fly Old Glory from your rooftop, or proudly display it in your front window or on your car bumper.
Speak only English at home and in public and insist that your children do likewise. Demand classes on American culture in the Mexican school system. Demand a local Mexican driver license.

This will afford other legal rights and will go far to legitimize your unauthorized, illegal, presence in Mexico Drive around with no liability insurance and ignore local traffic laws. Insist that local Mexican law enforcement teach English to all its officers.Good luck! You'll be demanding for the rest of time or soon be dead. Because it will never happen. It will not happen in Mexico or any other country in the world except right here in the United States, Land of the naive and stupid, idiotic politically correct politicians. If you agree, pass it on. If you don't, go ahead and try the above in Mexico or Iraq