Heaven & Hell. Are we sure they don't exist?

Question

I know that most of us have heard stories about people having near death experiences. About tunnels and white lights, etc. I've been reading this book and it mentions a different side;
"There was a nurse who works in an emergency room tod me about a patient who had gone "code red"-flat lined. She and some other medical personell rushed over to the defibrillator to try to bring him back to life. They applied the paddles and revived him. She said the he started screaming and shouting, "The heat! The heat!" Then his heart stopped again. They brought him back a second time. He shouted "The flames! The flames!" They lost him again. Four times the man flat lined and was brought back, each time shouting about heat or flames. After the last time, he died and they couldn't bring him back. She said all the doctors and nurses stood there for a few minutes and stared at the body. They knew this man went to hell. He was screaming it to them before he even got out of here." -Continued-

"Voltaire, the famous French author, Philosopher, and atheist, was once asked if he would say something to comfort a friend who was dying. Voltaire responded: "I don't think I can do that. The thought that there might really be a hell plagues me continually."

Now could there possibly be a heaven and hell?

The book is "One Heartbeat Away."
=)

Understand that I wanted to point out the "Other stories" about life after death. And If I used it for reference to my logic, that wasn't the point. Wasn't trying to. But the question remains the same...

Devil's Advocate: How is it that your dellusional when your dead?

Answer 1

i'am sure that there's heaven and hell.

it is written in the scriptures

This is hell

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever

Revelation 20:10

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Revelation 21:8

Answer 2

If you have ever been hit with a defibrillator screaming about the heat and flames isn't far off it feels like someone has lit you up completely when that shock hits.. From the very top of your head to the tips of your toes your entire nervous system is in overload for a few seconds.. The feeling is very difficult to describe you have to feel it to understand it..

I felt this feeling after dying on the delivery room table having my 3rd child.. I never want to feel it again if I can help, to say it hurt is a severe understatement.. It was the worst pain I ever remember feeling in my entire life.. Considering I have felt compound fractures and childbirth without any pain meds you can imagine the pain I have felt..

No This does not chance my view I do not believe there is a heaven or hell or any deities..

Answer 3

Fear is a powerful tool. I see heaven and hell as states of mind, nothing permanent though. Stories like that don't seem to exist in other area's. In Buddhism, the belief is that the soul suffers a bad inbetween life (or good, depending) before they reincarnate back to another life. Flat-line stories are interesting but they don't/can't say what happens in the long-run.

Answer 4

"couldn't the future me (the me that exists outside of time) be able to tell the current me (the me that is trapped in time) what is happening?" if it could... would you listen to yourself? and if you wouldn't listen to your future self... why should any expect you to listen to them now? i hope that you understand this question within a question. if i tell you that Heaven and Hell exist because i can see it and you can't... how do you know that i am (or am not) lying to you? if i can... see 'it' that is. can the blind lead the blind? only in love... insha'Allah best wishes and warm regards... and i tell you this in love... it is not an original thought... see the works of Richard Bach and others... (but you do get a star)

Answer 5

I've also heard of people being happy with 100 virgins during a near death experience and then coming back to life... It's all in your head man. yes I'm sure there is no such thing as a heaven or hell.

Answer 6

Believing that there is a hell won't hurt you; not believing that there is a hell could hurt alot. There is a door in Italy where a handprint is burnt into the top from someone who appeared to her friend to give proof of suffering in the afterlife. The proof is out if you want to know it.

Answer 7

I am sure. It is logically impossible for such things to exist.

Also, you cannot use people's subjective experiences as proof. It is bad logic, and anyway there are scientific causes for what most people mistake as heaven/hell/the light.

Answer 8

Because as soon as your heart stops your instantly transported to the nether world? I'm not buying it...assuming this story is even remotely true (Note: Big assumption) Please remember that most people near death are delusional. My grandfather thought there were wolves under his bed and that the nurses were poisoning him when he was in the hospital....it doesn't make it true.

Answer 9

heaven and hell exist in the mind and the mind alone. There is no physical place like heaven or hell. YOu can be in "hell" while you're living, and you can be in "heaven" while you're living.

Answer 10

I'm sure. As sure as I am of anything. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it then, but untill then, I call BS.