What would we have done if our bomb was a dud and the Japanese used theirs successfully on our fleet in 1945?

Question

Folks still don't believe in the Hung Nam, North Korean blast a few days after Hiroshima. The scientists in that Japanese colony had not yet heard of our first bombing when they set their more powerful (but box-car sized) weapon off aboard a boat a few miles from shore. Their plan of loading it into a sub and detonating it either under our invasion fleet or San Fransisco Bay would have really changed things. The Russians snatched the scientists and equipment, leading to the development of their own nuclear program. Could we have beat them on their own shores while they were setting off nukes on ours?

Answer 1

1. Japan never had the possibility to develop a working bomb.

2. You state the Japanese set off a (test) blast in Hung Nam in N. Korea after the Japanese blast over Hiroshima (funny how the place was a prison camp for the communist regime after WW2 with prisoners and guards able to survive the contamination!!!

3. Russia completed its own bomb with plans sold by American Communist sympathizers, and not from any supposed captured Japanese scientists, who would have been evacuated top priority from any Russian advance.

4. The Japanese were chronically short of Uranium their requested supply from the Nazis being captured on board a German U-Boat which surrendered in May 1945 to the US Navy, the Japanese officers on board committed suicide rather than surrender to the Allies.The captured Uranium was used in the American bombs and delivered to Japan over Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

5. Japanese Subs, would have no chance to sail to the USA without resupply of which there was none available at this stage of the war.

6. The Americans discovered all the information with regards the Japanese bomb plot in Japan, it beggars belief they had a second set up so far away, supposedly in N.Korea.

7. You offer no verified proof of your claims.

8*: Rev. Sun Young Moon liberated from Hung Nam prison October 14, 1950, (five years after there was a Atomic Bomb Blast offshore??)

Answer 2

Boy you like to open a can of worms. First off the incident you quote has never been determined to have been either a low yield A-bomb or a fuel-air explosive. Either one would have caused the results alluded to. The popular consensus is that it was a fuel-air explosive as there has been not one report of residual radiation that I am aware of. If it had been an Abomb there should be some radiation even now. Agreed North Korea would be hard to let investigators in to look for radiation, still it could be detected by other means. As for ours being a dud that was very much a possibility on that August morning. Half the engineers involved thought it would be a dud!!!. Even still, the plan for the invasion of homeland Japan was a go, and in the work up phase. Bringing the fleet to Japan would have been an awesome undertaking. No one bomb could have defeated it. 5 or 6 maybe. At that time the U.S. Pacific Fleet was the Largest naval force in the world. It could well have had 2000 vessels involved in the landings on the southern islands. Jet powered bombers and fighters in mass would have had a far more devastating effect then one or two bombs.When all is said and done conventional weapons in quantity far outweigh the nukes in combat effectiveness.

Answer 3

I don't think your information is correct. The Japanese had a facility in Hung Nam that produced chemical weapons. It was in the early stages of creating an atomic weapon, but had not gotten much further than creating a cyclotron. That is a device that is part of the enrichment process from uranium to uranium235, the 'weapons grade' uranium. All the equipment and personnel were taken away by the Soviets and never heard from again. I have checked quite carefully and can find no facts to support your claim that they had a working atomic bomb. Even if they thought they had succeeded they had never tested one so could not be sure. I'm sure that they had plans what to do if they ever developed this weapon, but they had to have some type of goal to justify the astronomical cost of such research. Without proof you would have to say that this is another type of 'urban myth', probably started up as pure conjecture or someone's work of fiction.

Answer 4

Unable to find a city in North Korea called Hung Nam. Hung Nam is Vietnamese singer.

The Japanese were not even near to creating an atomic bomb during WW2.

The Russians were also too busy trying to snatch German scientists from beneath our noses.

The Soviets never even entered the Pacific War until it was almost over so they could get some of the post-war candy.

Where did you get your facts, seriously?

Answer 5

Even if they would have had a bomb which is rumor..Japan had no viable method of delivery to its sweet spot.
Having the arsenal or ordinance is only half of the answer. Successful detonation of this type weapon is another major problem, along with enemy detection. See, they weren't even close...Subs, you say..not Japan. they had 6 sunk without being fired on at the mouth of the Hawaiian harbor. Far to unreliable.
No worries, you can sleep well tonight.

Answer 6

don't ponder what could have been.
believe me.
if it were'nt for the the great wall of china, the roman empire would still be.

the great wall was intended to keep the huns out, and the huns are the reason the empire fell (indirectly).

its pointless to just propose things that did'nt happen, by any margin.

Answer 7

regardless we would have succeeded, we have the most powerful navy in the world. I was in it. today we can take out every country on the planet simultaneously if we want to. It's not a fleet, but a battle group, fleets get deployed in increments, pacific fleet, atlantic fleet etc., with a bunch of battle groups among them.

Answer 8

There are too many things we dont know.Like how many bombs did they have?

We probaly would have beat them though. I think the estimate was 1,000,000 dead Soldiers and Marines. Thats how many we would have sustained by island hopping instead of just dropping the bombs.

Answer 9

probably world war 4

Answer 10

We'd have dealt with it using our time travel/teleportation device that was nearing completion at the time.