Enlisting......?

Question

-What physical requirments should you be able to meet before you go to Basic, to be able to make it through Basic and RIP to become an Army Ranger?
-Can you actually enlist as a Ranger and if you dont make it through training the Army will put you as sometihng else or do you enlist as something else, get RIP in your enlistment contract and if you dont make you go to the MOS you enlisted in to begin with? How does that work?
-Enlistment bonus when you enlist and are going for Ranger?

Answer 1

You need to be able to run 2 miles in less than 20 minutes, you need to be able to do 50 push ups and then 50 sit ups each in less than 2 minutes. You need to be within 30 pounds of your normal weight. If you can do this then you can pass Basic Training for the US Army, the other services may have other requirements. Like the Air Force wants you to be able to help load a missile on board a jet so you have to be able to lift 20 lbs over your head or something similar. I don’t know what special requirements the Marines or Navy has, but if you want to be a Ranger then you want to go into the Army.

After Basic Training you will be offered the chance to go Airborne. If you do that, then you might be offered the chance to attend Ranger School. All military schools are tough, both physically and mentally. When you pass one you are expected to be able to do more in combat and you have to prove that you can handle the stress of it.

After basic training you could handle a 5 mile run, you could stay up for almost a week with little to no sleep, operate in a contaminated environment and still be able to fight. After airborne school you could easily do an 8 mile run, and after Ranger School, a 12 mile run would be easy and you should be able to effective in combat for weeks.

After basic training you should be able to be dropped down in the woods run a mile to where a wounded man is, treat that wound, find the pickup location on a map and get that man there for pick up. After Airborne training you can double all the distances and require a parachute jump. After Ranger Training you can triple the distances, make it all behind enemy lines, under heavy fire and in a hostile country.

Unless you are good enough to run a triathlon, you won’t be good enough to do this kind of work. However, after basic training you can. If you can only do half of the requirements 25 push ups/sit ups, run a mile in under 20 minutes then by the time you finish basic training you should be able to hack it. By the time you finish Airborne School your legs will be strong enough to take that final drop from a parachute. You don’t land easy after jumping out of a plane, not when you are carrying 50 pounds of equipment as well. The requirements for Ranger School are even tougher, I don’t know all of them because I never went there.

Half of any military school is physical training that a reasonable person can do. The other half is mental action that a reasonable person can perform. The requirements for what is reasonable grow with each level in school. For example in SEAL school a reasonable person would think running a triathlon as an easy task. In all these schools you will be under stress, extreme stress. The DIs won’t punch you, push you, shove you, or hurt you, but they will scream, yell, and make you feel like you are 1 inch high. That’s the military way; their goal is to break you down and build you up. If you can’t take the stress then you don’t belong in combat and they need to know that before putting the lives of other people into your hands.

Now I was an average guy and I failed my first PT test in Basic Training, but I graduated and on the final exam I didn’t have to retest unlike 90% of my platoon. If you pay attention, do what is required, don’t try to cheat then you can graduate each school. The DIs want you to graduate, if you are good enough, and they make sure of that in the Training. Feel confident in your DIs and in their training, anything that they do to you was done to them twice or three times as worse.

A lot of the goal of Basic Training is to see if you can perform under stress. If you can’t take the stress, then don’t worry other people have failed. Just don’t think that the DIs are out to get you, it isn’t personal. If you can’t take it then quit, and the DIs will take you out ASAP (as soon as possible). They won’t harm you, ridicule you or insult you. It is a failure, but it is better to admit when you can’t hack it and to remain sane then to lose your sanity or to try and hack it and fail. Every couple of sessions someone tries to commit suicide, which is pointless. The DIs don’t want to you to do that, that want people who won’t fall to stress like that. If you do then they want you out of their unit and away from people who you might harm; sometimes just knowing that you can quit at any time, if you need to, will give you that extra will to keep going and finish.

The “can do” attitude can be the most important thing that will help you finish the course.

Basic is made so that anyone who can graduate high school can pass it, and if you can pass it then you can hack Airborne and Ranger Training will just be a few degrees worse. If you can’t hack Airborne or Ranger School then you can still be a good solider. If you can’t even complete Basic Training, but you want to then the Army is going to try and help you get through it. This is true now and has been for over 50 years. The Army needs people like you and you don’t have to be a Pat Tillman to make it through Ranger School, you just have to have his spirit and will. Pat didn’t know a thing about the military before he went into it and he made it as a Ranger. His training as a football player gave him a huge advantage, a huge one. You don’t need his advantage to make it through Ranger School, and by the time you get through Basic and Airborne you will know if you have the right stuff.

Anybody from any MOS (Military Occupational Specialty) can be Airborne or a Ranger, but to remain Airborne qualified you have to make those jumps and to use your Ranger skills you need to be in a combat MOS. I don’t know your plans, but a combat MOS will give you and edge over other candidates, because of the extra physical requirements.

Good luck, respond to me if you want more info. and I will try to help.

Answer 2

IF the Army gives you a Bonus to enlist to be a Ranger and fail to complete all of the training you would have to pay back the bonus.
If you enlist Airborne Infantry, complete that training and then go Ranger and fail out you get to keep the bonus.

Your first challenge is to make it as a soldier
then to make it in the infantry
Then to be Airborne Infantry
Then to make it as a Ranger

Answer 3

You have to love to suffer physically. I mean put your body through a rough regimental exercise program with a lot of running for about three weeks before enlisting and if you can handle that by all means ENLIST. You can not ask for Ranger training, you can only get in if selected once you are in the Army. Although, you can go in as an Infantry Man and go Airborne and the ask to be consider to join the Rangers. Either way, you will end up in Iraq.

Answer 4

in order to enlist you must be able to do 13 pushups 17 situps and run a 8:30 one mile. that is just to enlist. making it through basic depends on age for my age group 22-26 you have to do 42 pushups in two minutes 53 situps and run the two mile in 16:36.

you can get airborne in your contract but I dont know about ranger school. if you dont make it through the training yes the army will reclass you to another MOS that suits the needs of the Army.

As for the bonus, you would have to talk to your local recruiter, in fact that is what I would suggest just go talk to your recruiter tell him what you are wanting and see what he can do for you.

Answer 5

You can not enlist as a ranger.

And make sure you can do LOTS of push ups! And when I mean a LOT of push ups, I mean, hours and hours worth. And RUN! I mean, running for 5+ miles.

Enlistment bonus are just a way to get you to sign the papers. You won't see the money for a looooong time. And even then, it'll probably be in payments over your enlistment.

Good luck!

Answer 6

God forbid Son; let me tell you something think twice before joining. With the Democrats giving info to the enemy, well it just makes me shutter. These young people joining the military. Don't misunderstand me, being in the military is something to be proud of. I was in Vietnam, son I know what the Democrats are; they'll betrayed you. Just like they did during Vietnam, if a Democrat becomes President in 2008, "God Help Our Soldiers."