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I have a 3 month puppy and is it ok when house trainning him to shove his face in the poop or pee and spank him while saying "no" or "bad dog"? Is it pet abuse or is it an actual efficent way to make him understand not to do that in the house?

2007-08-03 09:05:59 · 32 answers · asked by Anonymous in Pets Dogs

I have a 3 month puppy and is it ok when house trainning him to shove his face in the poop or pee and spank him while saying "no" or "bad dog"? Is it pet abuse or is it an actual efficent way to make him understand not to do that in the house?

Just wanted to make clear~ I don't or have never done that, but some people tell me to do it but I chose not to and instead ask.

2007-08-03 09:30:38 · update #1

Once again I have not hit or mistreated my puppy in anyway just wanted some advice since I too did not believe it was the proper way to go about things that's why I am asking and listening instead of just doing it! I have NEVER hit or yelled at my puppy!!!

2007-08-03 09:50:24 · update #2

32 answers

Surely you must NOT be serious! If you are serious about correctly, effectively, and humanely housebreaking your puppy, what you describe is NOT the way. It my eyes, that IS abusive and if you want your dog to fear you, that's a good way to ensure that happens. What you describe, is what was in vogue for housebreaking puppies about 25 years ago, but now, the best way to train a dog is with positive reinforcement. If you want to really housetrain your puppy, get your puppy a crate, the right sized crate for your dog, now. The puppy should be able to stand up and turn around in it. Keep your puppy in the crate and it will whine or cry or alert you in some way when it needs to go out, BUT, you should take your dog outside, especially when it is this age, every 30 minutes. Stay with your dog and when it pees or poops, praise it like a crazy person, very excitedly tell him "Yes! Good puppy" and immediately give him a treat. This will teach your puppy that he is being rewarded for doing something right and pleasing you. All dogs want to please their people and when you give him a treat and praise him, you are telling him that he is pleasing you. If your puppy hasn't gone potty within 10 minutes, bring him back inside, and back into his crate. Take him out again 20 minutes later and repeat what you did earlier, but do NOT punish him by yelling at him or telling him he is a bad dog if he doesn't potty. If he has an accident in the house, do not yell at him, but clean up his mistake when he is not in the room. When your puppy is out of the crate, you can tether him to you with his leash and when you see him walking in circles, or sniffing the floor, immediately pick him up and take him outside and tell him "Go hurry up", or "Go potty", what ever key word you would like to use. Another thing you can do is tie some bells around your door and show your puppy how to touch them with his paws or nose, which shows him how to alert you that he needs to go potty outside and each time you go outside with him, make sure he touches the bells in some way. Feed your puppy at the same times every day so that you can begin to regulate his toileting behavior. Also monitor the amount of water he drinks and remember that puppies have very small bladders and have to urinate very frequently. If you see that your puppy has had a drink of water, take him right outside again, and remember that what goes in, has to come out! Within a very short period of time, your puppy will KNOW to alert you when he needs to go outside, and will know that he has to potty outside and not in the house. I got my puppy when he was 9 weeks old and used this method to housetrain him. He was housetrained within 2 weeks and has only had the rare accident in the house. The ONLY time to yell "no" at your puppy is when you actually catch him in the act of having an accident inside, and when that happens, then immediately, in a stern voice, say "no", pick him up, and take him outside and tell him to go potty outside. Spanking is abusive, whether it's done to a human or an animal, and is certainly not an effective way to create love, trust, or obedience. If you spank your puppy, at some point in time, he WILL bite you, so please don't yell at or spank your dog. You want to create a special friendship and a long standing friendship wih your puppy. Treat your dog the way you'd treat your best friend. You want your puppy to love, respect, and trust you, not fear you! Love and enjoy your puppy and have great times together! Good luck with your puppy training, and if I can help you with any training tips, please email me and I'll be more than happy to help you!

2007-08-03 09:53:34 · answer #1 · answered by dejasvues 2 · 2 0

I can understand why you may ask a lot of people or confused about the way they should go about training puppies and I do know some people that do yell or lightly hit the puppies not to hurt them but just to make it known that they did bad. Do I agree.... No!
A lot of what people said is right puppies will get scared and some puppies wouldn't learn to "go" outside but just that "going" is bad. So instead of concentrating on him going in the house try to concentrate on him going outside with positive reinforcement. Once you do go through all the misunderstood hate mail there are a lot of good pointers on how to train, pee pee pads, crates and even the leash idea was a good one. Most importantly training a pup is hard so you have remember that and watch him and be consistent!!!

And your are right it does take a lot to ask about what turned out to be a very controversial question, but I read the rest of your question and I now know that you are just asking and not actually hurting the pup. So hopefully all are advise helps the pup get trained the right way and rescued him from what a lot of people might still believe is the right way.

2007-08-03 10:02:53 · answer #2 · answered by Sarah 1 · 1 0

You don't discipline the dog for going in the house, a dog that voids in the home is not trained...so the HUMAN has to learn to housebreak the dog not discipline it. Do not yell at the dog, bury it's nose in it or beat the dog....these methods are antiquated and abusive. Doing something as distasteful as these can cause the dog to not just continue to void in the house but to also hide it so you don't hit it, yell, bury it's nose in it and that would be worse than the dog just going in the open.

The proper way to potty train a dog...

Whenever the dog is in the house and not crated put a body harness and leash on the dog, tie end of leash to your belt. Wherever you go the dog goes. When you see the dog start to signal (sniff/circle/scratch) that it's got to go than run the dog out to where you want it to go. Praise, reward (immediately) and use a command word consistently. When the dog shows it's learned to go outside consistently by dragging you to the outside than you can undo the leash from your belt. Keep the leash on the dog still and keep an eye on it whenever it is in the house and not crated so if it starts to make an accident you can grab the leash and run it outside. Once it is going outside with no attempted accidents for at least a week than you can take the leash off.

The most common mistake in potty training is giving the dog freedom to roam the house without supervision where the human doesn't see the dog signal it needs to go.

And if your dog is a puppy remember it only has an average hold time of 1 hour for every month of it's life until they reach 8-10 months or so and can hold overnight (usually).

2007-08-03 09:41:57 · answer #3 · answered by smurf 4 · 3 0

No it's not right at all! It's cruel and abusive! Shoving his face in waste and hitting him, will do nothing but make him fearful and defensive. If you have done it, or are doing it PLEASE STOP!!! The are so many other humane, effective way's, to train your puppy, without abusing it. You have to remember that the puppy is just a baby, and has to be taught what to do, he's not going to just automatically figure it out. Training will take time and alot of patience. Never hit, PRAISE, PRAISE, PRAISE!!! There are so many sites on the Internet, that have all kinds of training information, that you may want to check out.

2007-08-03 09:37:48 · answer #4 · answered by Chihuahua Addict Adores Scooby 7 · 1 0

It is now considered animal abuse. Instead of bonding with you, he will just learn that you're unpredictable and not to trust you. Be firm, make a big loud deal if he poops inside. Don't let him leave your sight, take him every hour or two and the second you hear pee make a big fuss yelling, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,!!. And rush him outside.Please get some books from library about this. It's so important not to be mean. If you don't catch him right in the act: it's your fault for not watching him, clean it up, and say nothing. Take advantage of catching him being bad or good. Make a huge deal outside when he goes, saying, GOOD BOY! DO YOUR BUSINESS!! You can even train him to go on command by saying "do your business, or hurry up" everytime he starts to go and pretend he just did it to obey you.

2007-08-03 09:14:01 · answer #5 · answered by *coral* 3 · 2 1

It's a horrible, cruel abusive thing to do = STOP IT!!!!!!!

Take your puppy out early as soon as he wakes up in the morning, after every meal, every couple of hours, and before bed.
Take puppy to the same area outside and PRAISE, PRAISE, PRAISE when he does something.

If he makes a mess in the house, clean it up, neutralize the odor with a neutralizing cleaner, and ignore it!!!

All puppies make mistakes, kids aren't born potty trained either - you weren't.

It's your responsibility to train your puppy with kindness and patience.

I hope you haven't already done the poor thing any damage. The only thing your cruel, outdated method does is teach the dog to fear you and to hide when he poops. Terrible thing to do!!

Please get a book on puppies and their development and training, it will open your eyes
and make you a better pet owner.

2007-08-03 09:13:15 · answer #6 · answered by rescue member 7 · 3 0

I would buy him some doggy treats and praise him everytime he does the right thing. I would by him a wee wee pad when you are not home and can't take him out, so that he doesn't pee or poop all over the house. Take him out as often as you can and praise him when he is uses the bathroom. FYI - shoving the poop in his face will only make him want to eat the poop!!! Trust me; my cousin used to do that to his dog and the dog eventually began eating his crap!! Not cool!!

2007-08-03 09:17:06 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Don't do this. It won't work anyway. Try crate training. You have to keep the dog contained and then immediately take it outside when you take it from the crate. Watch him like a hawk. Whenever he starts looking for a place to go, take him out. And don't expect a young puppy to be perfect. He is still a baby, just learning.

2007-08-03 09:12:58 · answer #8 · answered by mama woof 7 · 3 0

sounds as if you're not crate training your puppy, which would solve your problem and prevent a lot of in-house accidents. dogs tend not to soil in their "den." if you crate your dog, that becomes its den.

if your puppy is relieving itself in your house, it means you're not on top of his/her potty schedule and you've either left the puppy: A) inside too long; and/or B) outside of the crate too long. a general rule of thumb to use is this: however many months old your puppy is, that's the maximum number of hours they might be able to hold their stool and bladder (e.g., 2 month old puppy needs to be let outside for potty AT LEAST every 2 hours--personally, i'd half that number and let them out every hour). you shouldn't leave them in the crate, or outside of the crate and inside the house, for longer than that. you've got to leave them in the crate a lot when you first bring them home so they get the hang of going potty outside; they can't have the full run of the house or they will never generalize that your house is their "den" too--this process takes time and can take up to a year to get a solid and successful potty trained dog. as they get older and show consistently they can behave and not soil one or two rooms, then they can be trusted to venture farther, but it's a process and you might have temporary setbacks. it's normal.

there's plenty of crate training advise you can google, and i would encourage anyone to educate themselves in that direction. you should never have to hit a dog. ever. if puppy makes an oopsie, it's your bad.

2007-08-03 09:28:31 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I have trained many pups and dogs throughout my life and each one reacted differently to the type of house training provided. You don't need to go to the extent that you described. Certainly tell him "Bad Dog" and spank him gently and immediately put outdoors and leave for a while. This should be done after each mishap. However, I found that if you take the dog outside at regular intervals, then wait until it has urinated or defecated and then provide praise it will eventually go to the door to be let out. Positive reinforcement along with routine seems to work the best.

2007-08-03 09:24:33 · answer #10 · answered by doghandler 1 · 1 3

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