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And I don't mean believe in one's self as in believe that you can accomplish things, I mean believe in your own existence.
I can prove this using "logic" which is different from logic because logic has a set of rules whereas I can just make up "logic" as I go along. I am justified in doing this because "logic" is God's tool, whereas logic is the devil's tool.
If you atheists used "logic" instead of logic you would discover that you don't actually believe that you exist, and here's why.

People are irreducibly complex, therefore they could only have been created by God.
You don't believe in God, so you don't believe in anything that could have created humans.
So you don't believe that humans were created.
If something doesn't get created it doesn't exist.
So you don't believe that humans exist.
But you are a human, so you don't believe that you exist.
Therefore, atheists cannot believe that they exist.
Q.E.D. (That's latin for "quiescently eschewing deduction," i.e. ignoring logic)

2007-08-03 08:01:14 · 23 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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1. I have just figured you out ("Fm")
2. "Logic" dictates that if I have figured you out then its you who doesn't exist (Fm--> ¬Ey)
3. Therefore you don't exist (¬Ey)
4. If you don't exist then you can't have proved that I don't exist
(¬Ey--> ¬Dym)
5. If you haven't proved that I don't exist then you are a supporter of Liverpool Football Club (¬Dym --->Ly)
6. Supporters of Liverpool Football Club are Koppites
( x [Lx-->Kx])
7. Koppites are Gobshites ( x [Kx--> Gx])
8. So you are a Gobshite (despite not existing)!

2007-08-03 08:44:24 · answer #1 · answered by anthonypaullloyd 5 · 1 0

I think Descarte cleared this one up a few hundred years ago. Cogito Ergo Sum - I think, therefore I am.

And since you brought up Latin, it is quod erat demonstrandum - because it has been demonstrated - not quiescently eschewing deduction. Those are English word, not Latin, and the phrase you ahve come up with means the exact opposite of Q.E.D.

2007-08-03 08:07:31 · answer #2 · answered by ZombieTrix 2012 6 · 0 0

I agree, using your own logic god doesn't exist. Unless you believe man created god., that's the only logical way god can exist, as a figment of man's imagination.

2007-08-03 08:09:26 · answer #3 · answered by coonrapper 4 · 1 0

Another fruitless endeavor... I mean seriously, your joking right? Anyways, heres the answer... you don't need God to believe in yourself.

I can use your same logic,apply that to God, and say hes an atheist since he has no creator and doesn't believe in himself.

2007-08-03 08:08:07 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I'm going to recommend you look up someone it seems from this nonsense almost certain you've never heard of. Rene Descartes. Start with him, and take a short course in western philosophy, instead of this fluffy nonsense you think passes for cleverness.

2007-08-03 08:04:46 · answer #5 · answered by Bad Liberal 7 · 1 0

Yes, I believe in my own existence. I obviously exist or I couldn't think about existence. I know I am a thing that thinks. I don't know that this body is my real form though.

2007-08-03 08:06:19 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

not exactly. we atheists believe that we came to be by natural selection and the procreation by our parents. we dont believe we were created by an intelligent being but we do believe NATURE created us. that is if you want to use the word created. just because a concious being didn't create us doesn't mean we weren't created by SOMETHING not SOMEONE else. evolution created us and every other living thing on this earth. our parents created us.

2007-08-03 08:05:53 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Irreducibly complex? Maaaan. You're sad.

2007-08-03 08:04:18 · answer #8 · answered by Joe S. 3 · 1 0

"People are irreducibly complex, therefore they could only have been created by God".

Ooops, false. Your argument fails.

2007-08-03 08:11:47 · answer #9 · answered by mathematician 7 · 0 0

You've convinced me. Can you provide directions to the nearest monastery? I want to enlist. Do they serve oatmeal for breakfast? If not, it's a deal-breaker.

2007-08-03 08:08:32 · answer #10 · answered by TeeHee 3 · 1 0

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