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In another question I read several answers that said we humans "choose" hell. How is that? And if it's true, somehow, how is it moral?

Bear with me...If we humans saw another person soak themselves in gasoline and light themselves on fire - we would be morally obligated to try to prevent them from harming themselves. SANE people don't make decisions that involve torturing themselves.

So why do we "sinful" humans know that its wrong to allow someone to light themselves on fire, but your god hasn't attained that level of morality?

2007-08-03 01:01:19 · 34 answers · asked by Laptop Jesus 3.9 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

34 answers

ah. i saw that too

we "choose" hell by not accepting their fairy tales as fact.

it really is as simple as that. they have a rulebook. if you dont reffer to their book and use it as a guide for your life then youre obviously not living by the rules.

of course society has its own (better) rulebook...most normal people live by that one...as i do.

so not abiding by their rules mean youre not abiding by the rules...hence...you CHOOSE to go to hell....simply.... because...you live your life ....according to a modern society ..as opposed to a ...pre-medieval society....

(shrugs)

2007-08-03 01:03:07 · answer #1 · answered by johnny.zondo 6 · 7 8

If a human being is bent on self destruction then so be it...you might stop them the first time (the garden), the second time (the flood) you might lay down a law preventing them from lighting themselves on fire (the 10 commandments) but eventually they will find a way to circumvent these deterants to self destruction and get ahold of those much coveted matches and flammable liquids and do the deed in spite of all the love you have shown them by taking their deeds upon yourself and dying for them so they wouldn't have too. The author of morality has already thought of all this before you...I believe every option provided. Wickedness has to see an end, suffering and death along with it...that is what hell is...and end, a destruction of all this is not of God. Jesus says "I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life..." no one comes to the Father without Him. All that is left is to simply not exist because no man can exist apart from God. Love in Christ, ~J~

2007-08-03 01:18:55 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

How can we be morally obligated to stop them?
That is their choice scenario. This can hardly be classed as judging God's morality.
Every thing is still a choice, good or bad, and liberty and freedom guarantee that choice.

Get A Grip

2007-08-03 01:05:19 · answer #3 · answered by Get A Grip 6 · 3 0

Their God loves us unconditionally but if we don't believe in it and worship it then it will send us to hell. Wait a minute, something doesn't sound right there. Hmmm, we had a dog once that we got from the shelter. It had had a bad life and didn't want anything to do with people. It just hung out on its own and mostly wouldn't have anything to do with us. We still fed it and cared for it with empathy and understanding. We gave it the best life we could for the remainder of its life. We didn't take it back to the shelter and have it euthanized and cremated. Isn't that more along the lines of unconditional love?

2007-08-03 01:09:41 · answer #4 · answered by Zen Pirate 6 · 3 2

I don't know. I guess that after death we will be happy to throw ourselves into a pit of fire because of holding a different point of view, lol?

When I was a kid, Hell was a very scary story, like the boogy man. Aside from the occasional sense of fear and helplessness, I don't believe I ever took that fantasy seriously, even when I was a young Catholic.

Fortunately, I don't have to care. I believe that humans have matured past the morality of the Bronze Age. This is a benefit from modern civilization and secular government. I am quite happy to be a woman in a twenty-first century democracy!

2007-08-03 01:06:29 · answer #5 · answered by Dalarus 7 · 4 3

If we saw another person soak themselves in gasoline and light themselves on fire - we will try to stop them. As you say its our moral obligation. But for how long? and how exactly can we stop them? Will you be willing to spend your entire life to make sure that he doesn't light himself on fire again? Probably not. Ultimately, the choice of not burning himself up resides with that person and not you. Until that person changes his mind, then he'd keep doing it even if you save him time and again. We may say that his insane but just the same it is still his choice. Just the same with God. Of course, He does not want anyone to go to hell but He will never force a person to go to heaven to. The decision to choose God or hell for that matter, is a decision for the individual. We can choose hell by not choosing God, its that simple. So ultimately, we can never blame God if we choose hell because it was our choice.

2007-08-03 01:18:43 · answer #6 · answered by mack-mack 3 · 1 4

Human beings are unique in that they are given both freedom and the intellect to know how to use it.

Additionally, God has also provided all that is necessary for us to recover from serious, repetetive, willful and even wanton mistakes and transgressions.

So our choice is both enlightened and empowered ... and we must be held ultimately accountable ... because
choice without consequences leads only to total depravity.

So needs be, there must be both choice and real consequences in order to have any semblance of order or justice ... otherwise there is only chaos.

Heaven wouldn't be heaven if it was a place of chaos and misery, so it is reserved for those charitable souls who have already learned to "play well with others".

Hell is the place for those who either don't care to learn ... or for those who might actually prefer chaos.

As for eternal suffering ... the next existence is an eternal one ... so the consequences of one's rebellion or one's refusal to "play nice" will also be forever.

This means that there will be ample time available for contemplation and reflection about all that has been lost ... and that's where the suffering comes into play.

Salvation is available for only a limited (human life) time. Get yours before the offer expires.

2007-08-03 01:29:40 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

God has the morality level of 3 year old

2007-08-03 01:17:39 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 5 1

Remember those stories our parents told us about the boogieman so we would do as they say (stay in bed). That is what I think of when people tell me about hell so I do as they say. Lucky for me I don't believe in hell or heaven or any other religious humbug. I get to enjoy life without fearing something that does not exist. I still manage to live a moral life!
Praise science!!

2007-08-03 01:51:37 · answer #9 · answered by mbucket 3 · 3 1

Hm...let me try....

If you are soaking yourself in gasoline (ignoring God) and getting ready to light a match (committing another sin), and I say nothing, I am immoral.

But if my God (my belief system, my morals, whatever) tells me to tell you that it's not only wrong, but to instruct you on how to wash off the gasoline, you tell me that He is a fairy tale. You tell me to mind my own business. You tell me that there are many paths and beliefs and I should respect that you believe the gasoline and match are good for you. And you go ahead and light the match.

So, looking at it through your prism, how should I proceed? I'm wrong either way, according to you.

2007-08-03 01:12:37 · answer #10 · answered by Jim K 4 · 1 2

All have had a chance to learn the word of God in this day and age. If a person makes a choice do do anything that makes them happy even if it is known to be sinful( adultery) then they choose hell as a payment for the pleasures of this like.

2007-08-03 01:29:35 · answer #11 · answered by Pamela V 7 · 1 3

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